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Thanks, all. I am wondering if they are afraid to mention having
specimens because of the intense reaction to the collection of a
single bird in the Solomon Islands.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/16 5:47 PM, Nancy Ruth Morin
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<pre wrap="">I think the point was that they were able to recognize that these were new species based on the photos. The actual paper in which Magnolia rzedowskiana is named cites a holotype specimen, of course, as well as many other specimens studied.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scielo.org.mx_pdf_abm_n112_n112a3.pdf&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=WWFTcZ7-Eeg4AwUduR-vyqY9SeRdVfdDOi-USS10zpE&s=phc_GkEeN_WrRYLWFN4NBno92zX13KMNd9Qbq7NFiRQ&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scielo.org.mx_pdf_abm_n112_n112a3.pdf&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=WWFTcZ7-Eeg4AwUduR-vyqY9SeRdVfdDOi-USS10zpE&s=phc_GkEeN_WrRYLWFN4NBno92zX13KMNd9Qbq7NFiRQ&e=</a>
Nancy Morin
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707/882-2528
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] on behalf of Alan Fryday [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:fryday@msu.edu">fryday@msu.edu</a>]
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:23 PM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] On the basis of photos
Without a specimen the new names are not validly published:
ICN 40.4. For the purpose of Art. 40, the type of a name of a new species or infraspecific taxon (fossils excepted: see Art. 8.5) may be an illustration prior to 1 January 2007; on or after that date, the type must be a specimen (except as provided in Art. 40.5).
Alan
On 3/24/2016 4:40 PM, Ellen Paul wrote:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blog.arkive.org_2016_03_new-5Fmagnolia-5Fspecies-5Fdiscovered_&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=WWFTcZ7-Eeg4AwUduR-vyqY9SeRdVfdDOi-USS10zpE&s=USozbteM8CQYFw8tGJJ2fsZdpybY_nO1hMj_xxbvmmw&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blog.arkive.org_2016_03_new-5Fmagnolia-5Fspecies-5Fdiscovered_&d=AwIFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=WWFTcZ7-Eeg4AwUduR-vyqY9SeRdVfdDOi-USS10zpE&s=USozbteM8CQYFw8tGJJ2fsZdpybY_nO1hMj_xxbvmmw&e=</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blog.arkive.org_2016_03_new-5Fmagnolia-5Fspecies-5Fdiscovered_&d=AwMDaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=vgRzA6s1ouLS9cKqEcgQr7jq1eYWvpKTpFfRJu50xOo&s=7COKIRszof9R_S7jVD3NaKcZf
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That's what the article implies. It suggests that the botanist never saw the plants in situ and was not provided with specimens.
Ellen
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