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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Hi Jon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We too had a one-time issue with the ink having come off of a few labels in a loan return of specimens in 75% ethanol.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">We never were able to pinpoint exactly the issue, as it only seemed to be these few vials, whereas the other vials in this loan return were completely unaffected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">However, there are solvent/surfactant products that will cause the ink to dissolve, disintegration, smear, fall off.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">These are:
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Industrial surfactants (Aerosol OT & Contrad) using in
<i>specimen rehydration</i>. So if there is residue of these surfactants in/on the specimens, this may/will cause the label to fail. This might be avoided if specimens are rinsed well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Methyl ethyl ketone (butanone) or MEK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Glacial Acetic Acid (3 mol)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">DEET (so if you are in the field and have DEET on your hands, you might not want to handle the labels)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Make sure to use Thermal Transfer SDR ribbon (not SDRa). I am still using an old SATO M-84Pro printer and get the paper (polytag) and SDR ribbon from Alpha Systems, and outside
these very few vials, we’ve not had a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Fong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 27, 2016 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Thermal label problems<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are having a label printer problem that supposedly no one else has, so I'm asking around to see if it really is only us, or whether that no one else has noticed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The problem is that we are able to scrape off the ink with a fingernail from our thermal transfer labels after they've been soaked in ethanol for a few minutes. We're using a relatively new Datamax H-4408, with supposedly chemical-resistant
resin ribbon, and polyester paper. This shouldn't happen, and I know that we've been able to successfully print labels where we couldn't scratch off the ink. With this printer. But it keeps recurring, and we don't know whether it's the supplier (Alpha Systems),
the manufacturer, our printer (lemon? doubtful, it's the second one), or us. Please answer this quick survey.<o:p></o:p></p>
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With a recently printed label, soaked in ethanol for a few minutes, are you able to scratch off ink with your fingernail?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
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What are the heat and print speed settings on the printer?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
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We've also had problems with fine white threads coming off the polyester paper and clogging the print head. Anyone else experience this?<o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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Dept. of Ichthyology<br>
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