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    <pre wrap="">Hi Brian, John, et al.,

Disclaimer: I am one of the ichthyologists, mentioned by John, who believes that isopropanol (ISO) is essentially equal to ethanol (ETH) for long-term preservation of fish specimens.  I have not seen John's book yet.  By coincidence, I also authored a book published in 2014, with Phil Hastings and Grant Galland on fish diversity (Thank you for the kind review, Brian.), and in it are photos of hundreds of great looking (as you say below), ISO-preserved specimens from our Collection at SIO.  John has used the phrase "in my opinion" and I echo those words here.  

John and I agree that a collection in ISO should not necessarily be changed to ETH, but I have additional reasons.  </pre>
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      <pre wrap="">1. Having endured many strict regs passed along by our vigilant Env, Health, and Safety Dept over the years, including a recent edict involving stricter safety procedures, including formaldehyde, we have received nothing restricting our use of ISO.  I wonder if "twice as toxic" is as harsh as it sounds.  John's sensitivity to ISO notwithstanding, we have had hundreds of researchers here over the years with only one headache to report, after the researcher had gone tank diving for hours.  The headache ceased within a few minutes.

2. The Uniform Fire Code exemts 50% alcohol (ISO or ETH) solutions from those requirmeents for storing 70% alcohol solutions.  Our fire marshal does not approve of specimen collections preserved in alcohol of any kind in concentrations higher than 50%, unless stored in flame-proof safety cabinets.

3. Thank you also, Brian, for sending a preview of your new article in <i>Copeia</i> which found no changes in morphometrics in specimens preserved in ISO.  Thus the supposed "tissue matrix undergoes more breakdown" would seem negligible for our purposes.

4. Many of the other issues mentioned below, e.g., layering, more shrinkage, more loss of color (All colors except brown or black are lost, regardless of ISO or ETH.), etc., have been discounted in an article written by a number of colleagues and me with years of experience with ISO, in the ASIH Curation Newsletter series.  I hope to get a copy to you soon.

5. The most important criterion for long-term preservation success is proper fixation in formalin, regardless of which alcohol is used subsequently.  

6. I also have not seen "whether there’s actually good data suggesting that isopropanol storage is seriously problematic" and I look forward to seeing John's book.  </pre>
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    Cheers,<br>
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] on behalf of John E Simmons [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com">simmons.johne@gmail.com</a>]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 7:09 PM
To: Sidlauskas, Brian
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Answering a question about isopropanol storage

Brian,
This question comes up fairly regularly--often enough that I have saved the following response to the question of ethanol vs. isopropyl. Please feel free to ask if you have any further questions:

I get this question often. The short answer is, ethanol is a better long-term preservative than isopropyl because ethanol is less toxic (isopropyl is twice as toxic as ethanol, due to its faster permeation rate), ethanol causes less shrinkage of specimens, less fading of patterns and colors,  and fewer user health issues (many people, myself included, get headaches from isopropyl fumes). However, this does not necessarily mean that a collection that is already in isopropyl should be changed to ethanol, as the change can create other issues.

Some people, particularly a few ichthyologists, insist that isopropyl is equal to or superior as a preservative, but in my opinion the information in the literature does not support their position. I have a full discussion of the pros and cons of isopropyl (with full references to the literature) in my book, Fluid Preservation: A Comprehensive Reference (2014). Here is a very brief summary:  Isopropyl is a secondary alcohol, which means it dissolves lipids better than ethanol (lipid extraction is a problem with almost all preservatives, but is worse with isopropyl); as a secondary alcohol, isopropyl is more reactive with oxygen and forms ketones and unstable peroxides that can damage preserved specimens, which probably accounts for the greater loss of pigments. Isopropyl causes greater specimen shrinkage, can be difficult to mix thoroughly, may form concentration layers in tall containers, and has been reported to soften bone. One reason some ichthyologists prefer isopropyl is because specimens preserved in it are more flexible than those preserved in ethanol, however, the greater flexibility is because the tissue matrix undergoes more breakdown in isopropyl than in ethanol. But back to your question--should specimens in isopropyl be switched to ethanol? There is no clear and easy answer. Specimens in isopropyl have already undergone shrinkage, so switching to ethanol will not help that situation, although it may prevent a little long-term fading. From a human health perspective, ethanol is safer to work with, but there will be traces of isopropyl for decades to come in the ethanol after the switch. The change would be resource-consuming (time and money). Ideally, new specimens should be preserved in ethanol and the old ones left in isopropyl, but this would require some sort of container labeling so the two are not mixed up. So it all depends on what your priorities are.

The Canadian Museum of Nature is one of the few collections to report on what happens when specimens (fish, in this case) were initially preserved in ethanol, then switched to isopropyl, and then back to ethanol, so you might want to read their paper:  Laframboise, S., R.M. Rankin, and M.M.L. Steigerwald. 1993. Managing change: alcohol transfer at the Canadian Museum of Nature. Pp. 28-33 in Snyder, A.M. (editor). The 1992 American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists Workshop on Collections Care and Management Issues, 52 pp.


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Penn State University
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School of Library and Information Science
Kent State University

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Sidlauskas, Brian &lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu">Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu">&lt;mailto:Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:
Hi folks,

Yesterday I received a private question about why the Oregon State Ichthyology Collection is mostly stored in 50% isopropanol rather than 70% ethanol.  I get this question frequently, usually with some combination of dismay for the collection specimens and sympathy for me as their manager.

The basic answer involves historical contingency.  I inherited a 20,000 lot cataloged collection in isopropanol (plus a lot more in backlog), and wasn’t about to change out 20,000+ liters of fluid. Nor do I have the funds to do.

The reasons that Carl Bond chose isopropanol in the first place (circa 1950) aren’t entirely clear to me, but my three best guesses are:

1)       50% isopropanol is slightly less flammable than 70% ethanol (slightly higher flashpoint, so perhaps better safety)

2)       Isopropanol is (or was) less expensive, particularly because the stock solutions involve more water.

3)       No one is tempted to drink the lab stocks of isopropanol

All that said, there’s definitely a sense that isopropyl alcohol is less than ideal for long term preservation. When I tried to follow that to a source a while back, I couldn’t find anything very detailed about what those drawbacks were.

I can certainly say that the specimens here at OSU generally look great. I’ve been posting photos recently on the collection’s Facebook page (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_OregonIchthyologyCollection&d=AwMG-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=x49nrUeo9JU1USxWzOjTuQ_33R_TczMK4NTHapBOci4&s=iPxkg2sACymGOIC0fl4xYABgs3AhA6etJoVabT6CI7g&e=">https://www.facebook.com/OregonIchthyologyCollection</a>)<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_OregonIchthyologyCollection-29&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&s=0_88_eFhFM11IFP9_-xoVOwDi3EeEJC9ZaYLRDCBCbw&e=">&lt;https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_OregonIchthyologyCollection-29&amp;d=AwMGaQ&amp;c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&amp;r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&amp;m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&amp;s=0_88_eFhFM11IFP9_-xoVOwDi3EeEJC9ZaYLRDCBCbw&amp;e=&gt;</a> to help promote an online fish systematics course that I’m developing, if anyone want to take a look.  There are also a bunch up at the collection’s database at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ichthyology.oregonstate.edu&d=AwMG-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=x49nrUeo9JU1USxWzOjTuQ_33R_TczMK4NTHapBOci4&s=O_bmdvUEPKdjIcp6xXcv4iroLmsJ8sH0ysr8HFl10q4&e=">http://ichthyology.oregonstate.edu</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ichthyology.oregonstate.edu&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&s=1f1Pyb1AX11PAF15Las-XYQW3LsZ-kTx8vZa4-C_aNs&e=">&lt;https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ichthyology.oregonstate.edu&amp;d=AwMGaQ&amp;c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&amp;r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&amp;m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&amp;s=1f1Pyb1AX11PAF15Las-XYQW3LsZ-kTx8vZa4-C_aNs&amp;e=&gt;</a>.

And, we just published this paper suggesting that fish specimen shape is stable over decades of isopropanol storage.

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bioone.org_doi_abs_10.1643_CG-2D15-2D303&d=AwMG-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=x49nrUeo9JU1USxWzOjTuQ_33R_TczMK4NTHapBOci4&s=FqmZMqvN_2tDZZAoYJFY3nQFYotxAN-gpj7NEUcpnas&e=">http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CG-15-303</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bioone.org_doi_abs_10.1643_CG-2D15-2D303&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&s=0esFdfGbfJcHNMO0tSarf5Px7YjOIt7KtyHt-mwtym8&e=">&lt;https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bioone.org_doi_abs_10.1643_CG-2D15-2D303&amp;d=AwMGaQ&amp;c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&amp;r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&amp;m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&amp;s=0esFdfGbfJcHNMO0tSarf5Px7YjOIt7KtyHt-mwtym8&amp;e=&gt;</a>

So, I’d be very interested to hear about whether there’s actually good data suggesting that isopropanol storage is seriously problematic.

Thanks for reading, and best fishes,

Brian


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Brian Sidlauskas
Associate Professor and Curator of Fishes
Department of Fisheries and Wildlife
Oregon State University
104 Nash Hall
Corvallis, OR 97331

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/12/16 7:09 PM, John E Simmons
      wrote:<br>
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          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Brian,<br>
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          style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This
          question comes up fairly regularly--often enough that I have
          saved the following response to the question of ethanol vs.
          isopropyl. Please feel free to ask if you have any further
          questions:<br>
          <br>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">I
              get this question often. The short answer is, ethanol is a
              better long-term
              preservative than isopropyl because ethanol is less toxic
              (isopropyl is twice
              as toxic as ethanol, due to its faster permeation rate),
              ethanol causes less
              shrinkage of specimens, less fading of patterns and
              colors, <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>and fewer
              user health issues (many people,
              myself included, get headaches from isopropyl fumes).
              However, this does not
              necessarily mean that a collection that is already in
              isopropyl should be
              changed to ethanol, as the change can create other issues.
            </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">Some
              people, particularly a few ichthyologists, insist that
              isopropyl is equal to or
              superior as a preservative, but in my opinion the
              information in the literature
              does not support their position. I have a full discussion
              of the pros and cons
              of isopropyl (with full references to the literature) in
              my book, <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">Fluid
                Preservation: A Comprehensive
                Reference</i> (2014). Here is a very brief summary:<span
                style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Isopropyl is a
              secondary alcohol, which means
              it dissolves lipids better than ethanol (lipid extraction
              is a problem with
              almost all preservatives, but is worse with isopropyl); as
              a secondary alcohol,
              isopropyl is more reactive with oxygen and forms ketones
              and unstable peroxides
              that can damage preserved specimens, which probably
              accounts for the greater
              loss of pigments. Isopropyl causes greater specimen
              shrinkage, can be difficult
              to mix thoroughly, may form concentration layers in tall
              containers, and has
              been reported to soften bone. One reason some
              ichthyologists prefer isopropyl is
              because specimens preserved in it are more flexible than
              those preserved in
              ethanol, however, the greater flexibility is because the
              tissue matrix
              undergoes more breakdown in isopropyl than in ethanol. But
              back to your
              question--should specimens in isopropyl be switched to
              ethanol? There is no
              clear and easy answer. Specimens in isopropyl have already
              undergone shrinkage,
              so switching to ethanol will not help that situation,
              although it may prevent a
              little long-term fading. From a human health perspective,
              ethanol is safer to
              work with, but there will be traces of isopropyl for
              decades to come in the
              ethanol after the switch. The change would be
              resource-consuming (time and
              money). Ideally, new specimens should be preserved in
              ethanol and the old ones
              left in isopropyl, but this would require some sort of
              container labeling so
              the two are not mixed up. So it all depends on what your
              priorities are. </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt">The
              Canadian Museum of Nature is one of the few collections to
              report on what
              happens when specimens (fish, in this case) were initially
              preserved in
              ethanol, then switched to isopropyl, and then back to
              ethanol, so you might
              want to read their paper:<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> 
              </span></span><span style="font-size:12pt">Laframboise,
              S., R.M. Rankin, and M.M.L. Steigerwald.
              1993. Managing change: alcohol transfer at the Canadian
              Museum of Nature. Pp.
              28-33 in Snyder, A.M. (editor). <i
                style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">The 1992
                American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists
                Workshop on Collections
                Care and Management Issues</i>, 52 pp.</span><span
              style="font-size:12pt"></span></p>
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                <div dir="ltr">John E. Simmons<br>
                  Museologica<br>
                  128 E. Burnside Street<br>
                  Bellefonte, Pennsylvania 16823-2010<br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com" target="_blank">simmons.johne@gmail.com</a><br>
                  303-681-5708<br>
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                  and<br>
                  Adjunct Curator of Collections<br>
                  Earth and Mineral Science Museum &amp; Art Gallery<br>
                  Penn State University<br>
                  University Park, Pennsylvania<br>
                  and<br>
                  Instructor, Museum Studies<br>
                  School of Library and Information Science<br>
                  Kent State University<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 2:04 PM,
          Sidlauskas, Brian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu">Brian.Sidlauskas@oregonstate.edu</a></a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi
                    folks,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Yesterday
                    I received a private question about why the Oregon
                    State Ichthyology Collection is mostly stored in 50%
                    isopropanol rather than 70% ethanol.  I get this
                    question frequently, usually with some combination
                    of dismay for the collection specimens and sympathy
                    for me as their manager. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The
                    basic answer involves historical contingency.  I
                    inherited a 20,000 lot cataloged collection in
                    isopropanol (plus a lot more in backlog), and wasn’t
                    about to change out 20,000+ liters of fluid. Nor do
                    I have the funds to do.  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The
                    reasons that Carl Bond chose isopropanol in the
                    first place (circa 1950) aren’t entirely clear to
                    me, but my three best guesses are:</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1)      
                    50% isopropanol is slightly less flammable than 70%
                    ethanol (slightly higher flashpoint, so perhaps
                    better safety)</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2)      
                    Isopropanol is (or was) less expensive, particularly
                    because the stock solutions involve more water.
                  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">3)      
                    No one is tempted to drink the lab stocks of
                    isopropanol</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">All
                    that said, there’s definitely a sense that isopropyl
                    alcohol is less than ideal for long term
                    preservation. When I tried to follow that to a
                    source a while back, I couldn’t find anything very
                    detailed about what those drawbacks were.  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I
                    can certainly say that the specimens here at OSU
                    generally look great. I’ve been posting photos
                    recently on the collection’s Facebook page (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_OregonIchthyologyCollection-29&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&s=0_88_eFhFM11IFP9_-xoVOwDi3EeEJC9ZaYLRDCBCbw&e=" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.facebook.com/OregonIchthyologyCollection">https://www.facebook.com/OregonIchthyologyCollection</a>)</a>
                    to help promote an online fish systematics course
                    that I’m developing, if anyone want to take a look. 
                    There are also a bunch up at the collection’s
                    database at
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">And,
                    we just published this paper suggesting that fish
                    specimen shape is stable over decades of isopropanol
                    storage.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bioone.org_doi_abs_10.1643_CG-2D15-2D303&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=dJo2jLcsWcYEYDAw5hIx5-keoCRISJ9nMwm_Xh3EQrU&s=0esFdfGbfJcHNMO0tSarf5Px7YjOIt7KtyHt-mwtym8&e=" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CG-15-303">http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1643/CG-15-303</a></a></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So,
                    I’d be very interested to hear about whether there’s
                    actually good data suggesting that isopropanol
                    storage is seriously problematic!</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks
                    for reading, and best fishes,
                  </span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Brian
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                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Brian
                          Sidlauskas</span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Associate
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                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Oregon
                          State University</span></p>
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                          style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">104 Nash
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