<div dir="ltr">Andy, Absolutely.  No disagreement there, i.e., external labels. Thanks for reminding the list. <div><br></div><div>I would still like to document the condition of tissue accessions rec&#39;d with RIR labels and the USFWS hatchery folks are curious re: the use of Rite in Rain for temporary labels. </div><div><br></div><div>If there is a way to get an idea or if anyone has knowledge of RIR properties, I would like to hear about it.  I recognize that manufacturers do not share recipes,  but one never knows.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Lex</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Nhcoll-l] Rite-in-Rain Paper<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Rite-in-Rain or &quot;all weather&quot; field paper is used by the many agency biologists depositing specimens and genetic samples with the MSB Division of Fishes and other repositories.   Recently, the USFWS Southwestern
 Native Aquatic Resources and Recovery Center has requested that I find out if there are any issues with using this paper for genetic labels in the field or otherwise.  They tried to get information from the Rite-in-Rain company re: what was in the paper and
 coating (formalin?) to determine if the paper would pose a problem for genetic samples.  The company was not forthcoming re: Rite-in-Rain product specifics.  <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">We have had many genetic samples received at both the Center and the MSB with these paper tags  made by tearing pieces of paper out of the RIR field books, writing the sample number on RIR tag with pencil, and stuffing
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<p><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Any thoughts or insights?  Does anyone have an idea of how this paper is manufactured/treated?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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