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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree with the opinion that one should avoid putting anything in tubes with samples if at all possible. That said, I collected a lot of fish tissues in the
early 90’s and put a RITR label in every tube with 90% EtOH, 10% TE. I was able to extract DNA from every sample and the DNA was in fine shape. A friend here in Tacoma (where J.L. Darling is located) is the former co-president of RITR. I have a call in
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexandra Snyder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley@ku.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Rite-in-Rain Paper<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andy, Absolutely. No disagreement there, i.e., external labels. Thanks for reminding the list. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would still like to document the condition of tissue accessions rec'd with RIR labels and the USFWS hatchery folks are curious re: the use of Rite in Rain for temporary labels. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is a way to get an idea or if anyone has knowledge of RIR properties, I would like to hear about it. I recognize that manufacturers do not share recipes, but one never knows.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of Alexandra Snyder <<a href="mailto:amsnyder@unm.edu" target="_blank">amsnyder@unm.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 12:10 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Rite-in-Rain or "all weather" field paper is used by the many agency biologists depositing specimens and genetic samples with the MSB Division of Fishes and other repositories. Recently, the USFWS
Southwestern Native Aquatic Resources and Recovery Center has requested that I find out if there are any issues with using this paper for genetic labels in the field or otherwise. They tried to get information from the Rite-in-Rain company re: what was in
the paper and coating (formalin?) to determine if the paper would pose a problem for genetic samples. The company was not forthcoming re: Rite-in-Rain product specifics. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We have had many genetic samples received at both the Center and the MSB with these paper tags made by tearing pieces of paper out of the RIR field books, writing the sample number on RIR tag with
pencil, and stuffing the tag into a cryotube. Not optimal in terms of contamination issues, etc. but getting word out to field crews, etc. can be difficult. For many projects, I preprint labels on polyspun paper (DataMax) for researchers, but there are many
opportunistic collections that receive these temporary labels. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Any thoughts or insights? Does anyone have an idea of how this paper is manufactured/treated?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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