<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">most coatings and glass additives that are intended to provide UV protection have a lifespan...they do not last forever.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">chances are if those windows have been there for a long time, whatever protection they provided when they were new is gone or vastly reduced by now.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif">Jean DeMouthe</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Perkins,Kent D <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kperkins@flmnh.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kperkins@flmnh.ufl.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">












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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Herrick,<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Yes, I agree, perhaps they baked.  I’m not quite sure how much direct light that got in that window.  Now would be a good time to check that display case as the

 sun is to the south.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Herrick Brown [mailto:<a href="mailto:BrownH@dnr.sc.gov" target="_blank">BrownH@dnr.sc.gov</a>]

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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:48 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> Perkins,Kent D &lt;<a href="mailto:kperkins@flmnh.ufl.edu" target="_blank">kperkins@flmnh.ufl.edu</a>&gt;; Debra Trock &lt;<a href="mailto:dtrock@calacademy.org" target="_blank">dtrock@calacademy.org</a>&gt;; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:herbaria@NACSE.ORG" target="_blank">herbaria@NACSE.ORG</a><br>

<b>Subject:</b> RE: [HERBARIA] displaying plants<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Kent,<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">You’ve documented this very well and thanks for sharing.  I wonder though if light is the primary culpable agent, or if elevated temperature under display glass

 (i.e. greenhouse effect) may have played a larger role in the fading of the examples you shared.  I ask this since I’ve seen similar results when specimens spend too much time in a drying oven (with no light).  You note ‘little or no climate control’.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Perkins,Kent D<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:35 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> Debra Trock &lt;<a href="mailto:dtrock@calacademy.org" target="_blank">dtrock@calacademy.org</a>&gt;;

<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:herbaria@NACSE.ORG" target="_blank">

herbaria@NACSE.ORG</a><br>

<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HERBARIA] displaying plants<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Hi Deb,<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We have been working on an exhibit for the FLMNH 100<sup>th</sup> Anniversary (the herbarium is actually older

</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">).<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We learned from an earlier experience that light is certainly an agent of deterioration!  We placed some

<b>duplicate</b> specimens in a display case for public viewing which faces a covered walkway from October to mid-Feb.  The window &quot;supposedly&quot; has UV protection but I believe it does get some strong direct sun. There is probably little or no climate control.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Here is a comparison of the specimens before and after:<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.flmnh.ufl.edu_herbarium_specimens_zoom_imagezoom-5Fhtml5.asp-3Ffolder-3D240-26image-3D240186a2-23ImageTop&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=q5GddQ3VX3zHDupivWB07mLvKjoKCW5c8Y9OHK8SzV0&s=Xv--s9hXM2zS5WMI0zc8-0rsdJXx3vS-yvVzn492vxs&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:black">http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/<wbr>herbarium/specimens/zoom/<wbr>imagezoom_html5.asp?folder=<wbr>240&amp;image=240186a2#ImageTop</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The specimens in our new exhibit will definitely be sheltered from light.  But, to be safe we are not using any accessioned material.  We are creating “surrogate”

 specimens or high quality photographs.  In fact, I think the public would be just as pleased with the photos of the specimens as they are with the real thing.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">There was an inquiry on this subject some while ago, I think on NHCOLL.  Tim Dickinson (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.eeb.utoronto.ca_people_d-2Dfaculty_Dickinson.htm&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=q5GddQ3VX3zHDupivWB07mLvKjoKCW5c8Y9OHK8SzV0&s=aOPiHcpLs8-6SZmXVZfPstvXseJZ9l76SMVcU3ADrXo&e=" target="_blank">http://www.eeb.utoronto.ca/<wbr>people/d-faculty/Dickinson.htm</a><wbr>)

 responded with the following:<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">“The experience of the ROM Green Plant Herbarium is similar to that of others who have replied to this enquiry: herbarium specimens

 placed on display fade. In our experience, rotating the contents of display cases is usually impractical, and doing so would take away time from more pressing activities. Where they can be mounted a few feet away from a museum visitor, color scans of specimens

 are almost indistinguishable from the real thing. <br>

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My colleague, Deb Metsger, describes how she and her co-workers dealt with this issue in part of a report she made on the ROM&#39;s &quot; Life in Crisis: The Schad Gallery of Biodiversity&quot; that opened in 2009. This report was published in the Bulletin of the Canadian

 Botanical Association, and is available online at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cba-2Dabc.ca_Bulletin-5F43-5F3.pdf&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=q5GddQ3VX3zHDupivWB07mLvKjoKCW5c8Y9OHK8SzV0&s=W9JUp_Dwy8SCmYTl5tQm9B7HGSkminSm1nCg9I4nAFU&e=" target="_blank">

<span style="color:black">http://www.cba-abc.ca/<wbr>Bulletin_43_3.pdf</span></a> (p. 12 of the .pdf file, page 60 of the Bulletin). The report describes how the gallery team used scans of herbarium specimens, real plants, and models to convey the diversity of plants

 to museum visitors, not as backdrops to animal displays, but rather as vital components of diverse ecosystems. It may be of interest to others confronted with similar challenges<br>

---TAD.”<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We’ve found that publication to have a lot of helpful hints.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Kent</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Kent D. Perkins, Manager of the Collection<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">University of Florida Herbarium (FLAS)<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Florida Museum of Natural History<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">379 Dickinson Hall<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">PO Box 110575<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Gainesville, FL  32611-0575<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Ph. <a href="tel:(352)%20273-1990" value="+13522731990" target="_blank">352-273-1990</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> HERBARIA [<a href="mailto:herbaria-bounces@NACSE.ORG" target="_blank">mailto:herbaria-bounces@<wbr>NACSE.ORG</a>]

<b>On Behalf Of </b>Debra Trock<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:46 PM<br>

<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>;

<a href="mailto:herbaria@NACSE.ORG" target="_blank">herbaria@NACSE.ORG</a><br>

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 to plants and algae.  Our exhibits team is asking for advice on interesting ways (besides herbarium sheets, fake plants, or living plants) to preserve plants for exhibition.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,serif">I have no experience in this realm, so am open to any ideas or suggestions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Dr. Debra Trock<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Senior Collections Manager, Botany<u></u><u></u></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">PH:  <a href="tel:(415)%20379-5363" value="+14153795363" target="_blank">415-379-5363</a><u></u><u></u></p>

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