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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Kent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would also like to thank you for taking the time to post such wonderful
 photos, demonstrating fading of vulnerable herbarium sheets caused by filtered visible light. &nbsp;I am sure we will use them in the future for educational purposes.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In the spirit of sharing, I thought I would pass along a wonderful Canadian
 resource we find extremely helpful, in case you are not familiar with it. The &nbsp;Canadian Conservation Institute’s (CCI) web page on Light as an Agent of Deterioration
</span><i><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__canada.pch.gc.ca_eng_1444925073140&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=xPTUIfpG-mFsC9TOvwbbxWtWgBmqXI-2JpvQFCHJAw8&s=ll2z76pwlyipG8B3bI6CQYVJU1lVb-yOplE3UbCYhw0&e=">http://canada.pch.gc.ca/eng/1444925073140</a></span></i><span lang="EN" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
 &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">does a great job explaining the relative risk caused by all types of light (UV, Visible and IR) &nbsp;and the relative damage to a wide range of museum
 materials (Table 3). Not surprisingly, it classifies <i>most</i> plant extracts as highly light sensitive (ISO Blue wool #1, #2, #3). This was certainly our experience when we worked with CCI scientist, Season Tse, on a project to select and safely display
 some very valuable historic herbarium sheets for temporary exhibition (<i><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.spnhc.org_media_assets_cofo-2D25.pdf&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=xPTUIfpG-mFsC9TOvwbbxWtWgBmqXI-2JpvQFCHJAw8&s=4X2eQI-FPhJ7zjcZpun1-mFMc-h3ZurNsPWSwCACMuk&e=">http://www.spnhc.org/media/assets/cofo-25.pdf</a>, Fig 4 &nbsp;pg 102 in the article or pg 140 in the pdf).</i>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For permanent exhibition of herbarium material, we try to address this risk by (1) planning for fading e.g. having duplicates of non-scientific
 specimens we can replace over time or (2) or following the ROM’s lead and making high resolution photo reproductions. &nbsp;Most excitingly, we are using live plants, by re-landscaping outside the Museum into a Landscapes of Canada Garden (https://canadianmuseumofnature.wordpress.com/2015/07/13/the-landscapes-of-canada-gardens/).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Carolyn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Herrick Brown<br>
<b>Sent:</b> January-11-17 4:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Perkins,Kent D &lt;kperkins@flmnh.ufl.edu&gt;; Debra Trock &lt;dtrock@calacademy.org&gt;; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu; herbaria@NACSE.ORG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] displaying plants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Kent,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You’ve documented this very well and thanks for sharing.&nbsp; I wonder though if light is the primary culpable agent, or if elevated temperature under
 display glass (i.e. greenhouse effect) may have played a larger role in the fading of the examples you shared.&nbsp; I ask this since I’ve seen similar results when specimens spend too much time in a drying oven (with no light).&nbsp; You note ‘little or no climate
 control’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Herrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> HERBARIA [<a href="mailto:herbaria-bounces@nacse.org">mailto:herbaria-bounces@nacse.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Perkins,Kent D<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Debra Trock &lt;<a href="mailto:dtrock@calacademy.org">dtrock@calacademy.org</a>&gt;;
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>; <a href="mailto:herbaria@NACSE.ORG">
herbaria@NACSE.ORG</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [HERBARIA] displaying plants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Hi Deb,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We have been working on an exhibit for the FLMNH 100<sup>th</sup> Anniversary (the herbarium is actually older
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We learned from an earlier experience that light is certainly an agent of deterioration! &nbsp;We placed some
<b>duplicate</b> specimens in a display case for public viewing which faces a covered walkway from October to mid-Feb.&nbsp; The window &quot;supposedly&quot; has UV protection but I believe it does get some strong direct sun. There is probably little or no climate control.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Here is a comparison of the specimens before and after:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.flmnh.ufl.edu_herbarium_specimens_zoom_imagezoom-5Fhtml5.asp-3Ffolder-3D240-26image-3D240186a1-23ImageTop&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=f0M-fqxKZZ5yzwldEzLPallEB40O2-xsim-s9B3N_j8&s=tACLtq4K6rV-iEi3Ebcg6T-iMa-TsCOjmGKZhT9s2oE&e="><span style="color:black">http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herbarium/specimens/zoom/imagezoom_html5.asp?folder=240&amp;image=240186a1#ImageTop</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.flmnh.ufl.edu_herbarium_specimens_zoom_imagezoom-5Fhtml5.asp-3Ffolder-3D240-26image-3D240162a1-23ImageTop&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=f0M-fqxKZZ5yzwldEzLPallEB40O2-xsim-s9B3N_j8&s=cbeXfu1Ju0B82CxirZmoDZ8NDkJnsqJ97nGPwzk1kWM&e="><span style="color:black">http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herbarium/specimens/zoom/imagezoom_html5.asp?folder=240&amp;image=240162a1#ImageTop</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.flmnh.ufl.edu_herbarium_specimens_zoom_imagezoom-5Fhtml5.asp-3Ffolder-3D240-26image-3D240162a2-23ImageTop&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=f0M-fqxKZZ5yzwldEzLPallEB40O2-xsim-s9B3N_j8&s=2pvjx6CPbtbvXk_yxo-pOP3axl8tM8UTIeVrJ_33uHs&e="><span style="color:black">http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herbarium/specimens/zoom/imagezoom_html5.asp?folder=240&amp;image=240162a2#ImageTop</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">The specimens in our new exhibit will definitely be sheltered from light.&nbsp; But, to be safe we are not using any accessioned material.&nbsp; We are creating
 “surrogate” specimens or high quality photographs.&nbsp; In fact, I think the public would be just as pleased with the photos of the specimens as they are with the real thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">There was an inquiry on this subject some while ago, I think on NHCOLL.&nbsp; Tim Dickinson (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.eeb.utoronto.ca_people_d-2Dfaculty_Dickinson.htm&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=f0M-fqxKZZ5yzwldEzLPallEB40O2-xsim-s9B3N_j8&s=K1Az6OlE1PfI3wBLkReWeAT59S26mW72yhJ664IeWqw&e=">http://www.eeb.utoronto.ca/people/d-faculty/Dickinson.htm</a>)
 responded with the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">“The experience of the ROM Green Plant Herbarium is similar to that of others who have replied to this enquiry: herbarium
 specimens placed on display fade. In our experience, rotating the contents of display cases is usually impractical, and doing so would take away time from more pressing activities. Where they can be mounted a few feet away from a museum visitor, color scans
 of specimens are almost indistinguishable from the real thing. <br>
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My colleague, Deb Metsger, describes how she and her co-workers dealt with this issue in part of a report she made on the ROM's &quot; Life in Crisis: The Schad Gallery of Biodiversity&quot; that opened in 2009. This report was published in the Bulletin of the Canadian
 Botanical Association, and is available online at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cba-2Dabc.ca_Bulletin-5F43-5F3.pdf&d=CwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=f0M-fqxKZZ5yzwldEzLPallEB40O2-xsim-s9B3N_j8&s=KgtQNw3Z5-Bfwgi5nHiSLNCa8uc2UnaYHw-l3QuuklE&e=">
<span style="color:black">http://www.cba-abc.ca/Bulletin_43_3.pdf</span></a> (p. 12 of the .pdf file, page 60 of the Bulletin). The report describes how the gallery team used scans of herbarium specimens, real plants, and models to convey the diversity of plants
 to museum visitors, not as backdrops to animal displays, but rather as vital components of diverse ecosystems. It may be of interest to others confronted with similar challenges<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">We’ve found that publication to have a lot of helpful hints.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Kent</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Kent D. Perkins, Manager of the Collection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">University of Florida Herbarium (FLAS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Florida Museum of Natural History<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Gainesville, FL&nbsp; 32611-0575<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Ph. 352-273-1990<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> HERBARIA [<a href="mailto:herbaria-bounces@NACSE.ORG">mailto:herbaria-bounces@NACSE.ORG</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Debra Trock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 11, 2017 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>;
<a href="mailto:herbaria@NACSE.ORG">herbaria@NACSE.ORG</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [HERBARIA] displaying plants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,serif">Does anyone have experience with different ways of preserving/presenting plants for exhibitions?&nbsp; We are planning an exhibit of California coastal life and a portion of that exhibit
 will be devoted to plants and algae.&nbsp; Our exhibits team is asking for advice on interesting ways (besides herbarium sheets, fake plants, or living plants) to preserve plants for exhibition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,serif">I have no experience in this realm, so am open to any ideas or suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:&quot;Georgia&quot;,serif">Deb<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dr. Debra Trock<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Director of Science Collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Senior Collections Manager, Botany<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">California Academy of Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">San Francisco, CA 94118<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:dtrock@calacadmy.org" target="_blank">dtrock@calacadmy.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">PH: &nbsp;415-379-5363<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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