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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">... we had some cracking of spun bound
      polyester of labels where we had specimens on loan, after they got
      exposed to our alcohol for approx. 1 year. But this was few single
      labels only so far. Have no details on their system, but will look
      into this for the fluid best practice.<br>
      <br>
      The labels Andy sent me some time back do well on my window sill;
      but this is a different polyester material.<br>
      <br>
      In general, polyester labels are rather rigid; they may not be the
      first choice if they could get into direct contact with fragile
      specimens (e.g. they could break off antennas of insects or poke
      into jelly fish when labelling jars). But as said, it is surely
      worth to do some testing first and they opt for what seems most
      suited for your purpose.<br>
      <br>
      All the best<br>
      Dirk<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Am 02.02.2017 um 12:25 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Heidi<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The gold standard for wet collections is
          the thermal transfer printer and spun bound polyester media
          system that a number of museums have been using for some time
          now.  We have been using it in our ichthyology and herpetology
          collections for over 15 years and have been extremely happy
          with them – no fading, yellowing, cracking or any
          deterioration in a number of different environments – ethanol,
          isopropanol, formalin, glycerin – pure and with specimen
          associated oils and contaminants.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I have had an informal test ongoing on my
          window ledge for about 11 years now with labels in all
          solutions in direct sunlight and the labels still look as new.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Attached is information about the printer,
          the pricing from Alpha Systems and an article I wrote for the
          SPNHC newsletter some time back.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">As Dirk mentioned there was some worry a
          while back about labels not standing up to certain fluids but
          this was traced back to a batch of incorrect ribbon that was
          shipped to various users.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Happy to provide further details if you are
          interested or ship you some sample labels to try.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Andy<o:p></o:p></p>
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                KS, 66045-7561<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span
              style="color:black"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">&lt;nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu&gt;</a>
              on behalf of Heidi Gartner
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:HGartner@royalbcmuseum.bc.ca">&lt;HGartner@royalbcmuseum.bc.ca&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 2:48 PM<br>
              <b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">"nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"</a>
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              <b>Subject: </b>[Nhcoll-l] guidelines for printing labels</span><span
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            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Hello,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Can
            someone please direct me to a resource/guidelines for the
            best settings for printing labels that will be immersed in
            alcohol (and occasionally formalin)? 
          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">We
            have been printing using a laser printer (Lexmar MS310dn) on
            permafiber paper.  We have been using this system for years
            but I have recently noticed that, particularly on small
            (vial sized) labels, that abrasion is wearing/scratching off
            some of the ink (mainly from forcept or vial mouth).  The
            label ink doesn’t bleed once immersed but I am still
            concerned with the long term viability of these labels.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Many
            thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
email: Dirk.Neumann(a)zsm.mwn.de

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Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung München
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Labor
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Bavarian Natural History Collections
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