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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Perry,<br>
<br>
in case of calciferous sand it could have been to buffer the fluid
against low pH values, but gneiss is more or less chemically inert
so I would assume it has been added for cosmetic reason.<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
Dirk <br>
<br>
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Am 21.09.2017 um 21:42 schrieb Perry Poon:<br>
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is a fine sandy substrate on the bottom of the Coelacanth
display. I remember that the movers had the Coelacanth in a
container filled with alcohol, and the sand and alcohol were
added to the glass display tank. The sand was allowed to
settle before the Coelacanth was placed into the display
tank. Some of the gneiss with mica that were floating tin
the tank could easily settle on the coelacanth specimen.
This would explain the small amount of glitter that I see on
the Coelacanth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Simon Moore [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:couteaufin@btinternet.com">mailto:couteaufin@btinternet.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Perry Poon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Perry.Poon@ocean.org"><Perry.Poon@ocean.org></a>; John
E Simmons <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com"><simmons.johne@gmail.com></a>; robert Waller
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Coelacanth deterioration<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Perry,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Glad (in a way!) that the turbidity test
proved to be positive as it indicates that you have a large
amount of lipid in solution as well as (probably) coating
the specimen and this bears out the reason for the pH
lowering.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The glitter is odd. Have there been (or
are there still) small pebbles in the display tank?
Sometimes designers will add these to improve the
appearance of the specimen and these often contain small
bits of glitter, rather like gneiss with mica.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The issue with the 5% formalin versus
alcohol - I still stand by what I said although I should
have added: provided that it is well maintained! Always a
problem these days with thinner collection staffing levels.
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Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14 Sep 2017, at 00:27, Perry
Poon <<a href="mailto:Perry.Poon@ocean.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Perry.Poon@ocean.org</a>>
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did the turbidity test of the coelacanth display
alcohol. I put a sample of the alcohol into a
petri dish and the liquid became white and cloudy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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saw several small droplets of fat in the liquid
and a thin film of fat that covered most of the
petri dish on the liquid’s surface.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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was told by a colleague that there are small
pieces of glitter on the surface of the
Coelacanth’s skin that are less than a millimeter
in size. They are very minute, and I see them
when the light hits them at a particular angle.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Simon
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<b>Sent:</b><span
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September 12, 2017 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Perry
Poon <<a href="mailto:Perry.Poon@ocean.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Perry.Poon@ocean.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>John
E Simmons <<a href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">simmons.johne@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Nhcoll-l] Coelacanth deterioration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Perry,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At pH 4 the skeleton and other
calcium salt-containing areas start to decalcify -
effectively removing the inorganic matrix. This
leads to scale drop as well as weakening of the
skeleton and eventual specimen collapse.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Try a simple turbidity test as
well. A Petri dish on a black background with
some water init - pipette some of the alcohol from
the specimen - is their any cloudiness or
turbidity at all? If so, the this would
represent saturation of lipid (normally from the
liver) and which has likely oxidised forming fatty
acids - lowering of pH. The scales looked rather
orange too which would also suggest lipid
saturation but that might have been due to
photographic lighting?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With all good wishes,
Simon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Simon Moore MIScT,
RSci, FLS, ACR<br>
Conservator of Natural Sciences and
Cutlery Historian,<br>
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style="color:purple">www.natural-history-conservation.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 12 Sep 2017, at 20:09,
Perry Poon <<a href="mailto:Perry.Poon@ocean.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">Perry.Poon@ocean.org</span></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi
Simon Moore</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
Vancouver Aquarium’s Coelacanth specimen
was purchased in the fall of 1971. It
was preserved in Formaldehyde at the
time. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
Coelacanth was transferred to alcohol
when it was put on display in the
Gallery. There were some alcohol
changes done to the display in the
following years. I don’t have records
of the changes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
last complete alcohol change (draining
the old alcohol and replacing it with
isopropanol) was 2000</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Since
then, there has been no change in the
isopropanol.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’ve
attached pictures of the Aquarium’s
Coelacanth. You can see the
deterioration around the head, fins, and
the tail.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The
pH reading for the display was done on
April 12, 2017. The litmus paper
indicated less than pH 5. It was pale
yellow.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Could
you explain to me the hydrogen ion
activity at pH 4? I’m unfamiliar with
it, and it may explain the acidity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There
was a density meter reading made on
April 12, 2017. 0.9285 g/cm<sup>2<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></sup>(density
meter adjusted to alcohol). The display
has 51% Isopropanol (standardize to 20<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span><sup>o</sup>C),
and 43.4% (non-standardize and not
corrected to temperature)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You’ll
see in the pictures that there are
scales that have fallen from the
specimen.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<b>Sent:</b><span
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September 07, 2017 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span>John
E Simmons <<a href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">simmons.johne@gmail.com</span></a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span
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Poon <<a href="mailto:Perry.Poon@ocean.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:purple">Perry.Poon@ocean.org</span></a>>;<span
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<b>Subject:</b><span
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[Nhcoll-l] Coelacanth deterioration</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some history of the
specimen’s initial treatment would be most
helpful as John has suggested. pH 4 is
the critical level for hydrogen ion
activity, so you’re getting close and it
obviously isn’t helping the specimen. <o:p></o:p></p>
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squeezed out over time from their
protein-based ‘pockets’ on the skin if
these pockets start to shrink. If the
specimen is preserved in alcohol then
the scale loss can be repaired using
Necolodine solution. Feel free to come
back to me if you need any further
advice or more detail and do send pics.<o:p></o:p></p>
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you know anything about
the preservation history
of the specimen? For
example, when was it
collected; was it frozen
before being preserved;
was it formaldehyde-fixed
or preserved directly in
alcohol; has it always
been in isopropyl alcohol?
Some photographs of the
deterioration you have
noticed would be very
helpful.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Pennsylvania
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Earth and Mineral
Science Museum &
Art Gallery<br>
Penn State
University<br>
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and<br>
Instructor, Museum
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School of Library
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Kent State
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Perry Poon <<a href="mailto:Perry.Poon@ocean.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
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