<div dir="ltr">Hi!<div><br></div><div>I have been dealing with this exact problem in our colony. I have been sorting and creating a new dermestid colony. One thing I will strongly suggest is to do a secondary sort before placing the dermestids into a new tank. You will almost be guaranteed to pick up some ham beetles along with the dermestids during the initial sort. So I have been placing beetles taken from the original colony in a cup and then sorting them out again in a separate container before placing the dermestids in a new tank for the time being. </div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps!</div><div><br></div><div>Elisa</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Aren Gunderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amgunderson@alaska.edu" target="_blank">amgunderson@alaska.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for the help All! Looks I will have to rescue some dermestids and restart the colony....<div>Aren</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:02 AM, Barry OConnor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bmoc@umich.edu" target="_blank">bmoc@umich.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear colleagues - I'd be interested in communicating with anyone who has mite problems in their dermestid colonies. I've worked with these mites in the past and would be interested in seeing any specimens from outside eastern North America.<div>All the best! - Barry</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_6395305712748264830h5">On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Revelez, Marcia (CDC/OPHSS/CSELS/DLS) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mte8@cdc.gov" target="_blank">mte8@cdc.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_6395305712748264830h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I have had this experience personally. Red-leggeds do kill/outcompete regular hide beetles. If the invasion is early and if possible – monitor the colony closely
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Do you know how they red-leggeds got into your colony? Mine got in because someone brought in a specimen straight from the field – from that point I required
carcasses to be frozen prior to entry. If you aren’t familiar – you should explore
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our dermestid beetle colony has been invaded by the red-legged ham beetle, <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Necrobia-5Frufipes&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=kBnbVAiIBvnm37vX57cDemsRZWRts-Qk4W2FalzXAWk&s=96xz_mW-gBvwLEmRKbKL2GUzT9qBmDqxnINLetD9Vmg&e=" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.o<wbr>rg/wiki/Necrobia_rufipes</a>.
Does anyone have any experience with these guys commingling with their dermestids? Will they kill the dermestids or are they feeding on the skeletons?<u></u><u></u></p>
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