<div dir="ltr"><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span>Hello Sergio,</span><br><span>We have experience cleaning fatty specimens.</span> <span>For instance, I remember a quite old taxidermy of <i>Monachus monachus</i> that kept the skull and other bones inside, as Jules suggest.</span> <span>Unfortunately, we do not have time to write </span></span><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span>so we have very little published</span></span>.</span> <span class="gmail-">But perhaps we could provide you with some of the internal restoration reports (in spanish!).</span> </span><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span class="gmail-">However, cleaning and other conservation works should be carried out by a conservator-restorer</span></span><span class="gmail-">.<br>Contact us,<br><br></span></span><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Marta Pérez Azcárate<br></div><b>Laboratori de Conservació Preventiva i Restauració</b><br></div>Itinerart<br><br></div>Nat-Museu de Ciències Naturals de Barcelona<br></div><div><b>Laboratori de Natura</b><br></div>Pg Picasso s/n<br></div>08003 Barcelona<br></div>Tel. 932562209<br></div><a href="mailto:marta.perez.cr@gmail.com" target="_blank">marta.perez.cr@gmail.com</a><br></div><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.museuciencies.cat_es&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=ujnux6K9mhtTw3P5oqwe6PZtyUrPvqr34R7eWGUpbVE&s=XDCNe4XwpFpacgF3vNQmTwa19QMBjpg5tXeee_iio0g&e=" target="_blank">www.museuciencies.cat/es</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-09 11:39 GMT+01:00 Julian Carter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Julian.Carter@museumwales.ac.uk" target="_blank">Julian.Carter@museumwales.ac.uk</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Sergio,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I’m presuming your specimen is quite an old one. Fats and oils can be difficult to adequately remove from skeletal material and skins
in marine mammals and reptiles. It looks from the image that parts of the skeleton are still in place. These are particularly difficult to degrease (e.g. see
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.museum.nantes.fr_pages_21-5Factivitesscientifiques_TableRonde-5Fsquelettes-5Ffevrier2012_interventions-5Ffr-5Fang.html&d=DwMGaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=pXIAZI42PI-tUPVmqZmXPH3uBZeF_tVw-vQ9NSMZ-bc&s=TztQzftjaTH9-6l_X2F2p9iCMmN1uP5J7iH6Oz5Dlfg&e=" target="_blank">
http://www.museum.nantes.fr/<wbr>pages/21_<wbr>activitesscientifiques/<wbr>TableRonde_squelettes_<wbr>fevrier2012/interventions_fr_<wbr>ang.html</a> and
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__onceinawhale.com_2013_07_02_we-2Dare-2Dnot-2Dalone-2Dand-2Dnot-2Dthe-2Dfirst_&d=DwMGaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=pXIAZI42PI-tUPVmqZmXPH3uBZeF_tVw-vQ9NSMZ-bc&s=2lLoizrlw8JRfNYcV9Eb2pjCvt1uzlOg3wHklyjuR2M&e=" target="_blank">
https://onceinawhale.com/2013/<wbr>07/02/we-are-not-alone-and-<wbr>not-the-first/</a> ). The fatty acid components will migrate out of the bone material and into the surface skin. As it will not now be possible to degrease the specimen it is probably now a case of regularly
cleaning off the oily deposits as these will attract dirt, potentially attract insect pests and are likely to further degrade on exposure to air - thus potential ‘acid burn’ issues mentioned by Steve previously (if this occurs there is physical non reversible
degradation of the skin). The ‘once in a whale’ teams blog on cleaning whale bone (linked above) is a good overview of potential approaches for this depending on access to chemicals etc.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hope that helps in some way<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="CY">Prif Gadwraethydd, Gwyddorau Naturiol
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" lang="CY"><a href="mailto:julian.carter@amgueddfacymru.ac.uk" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">julian.carter@amgueddfacymru.<wbr>ac.uk</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.<wbr>edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@<wbr>mailman.yale.edu</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 08 November 2017 21:59<br>
<b>To:</b> Sergio Montagud <<a href="mailto:Sergio.Montagud@uv.es" target="_blank">Sergio.Montagud@uv.es</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] fatty dolphin<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This looks similar to "grease burn" seen in fatty bird skins. An ornithology conservator may have some suggestions. (My own experiences with grease burned specimens -- soaking and scrubbing
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 6:33 AM, Sergio Montagud <<a href="mailto:Sergio.Montagud@uv.es" target="_blank">Sergio.Montagud@uv.es</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Dear all,<br>
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We have a very old dolphin (maybe from the last years of the 19th century) with an important fat problem. We don't know the original color of the specimen (live dolphins of this species are blue-grey) but our specimen is now brown. The fat is problematic because
the entire specimen is covered by it and it looks greasy and shiny for proper exposure. In addition, the grease falls on some parts of the wood below.<br>
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We don't have this problem in other specimens (maybe, because this is the only cetacean we have) and not know wha we can do. Someone could recommend some action to stop the fat proliferation?<br>
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I add some pictures of this special guy.<br>
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Thanks<br>
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Sergio<br>
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