<div dir="ltr"><div>Ellen, <br><br>What easier way to tell Congress how ridiculous the ESA is than to seemingly point out, by way of a legal petition, that "there is not such thing as a 'species'" "? "Protect this species!"??? "What species?" "We don't need no stinkin' ESA!"....<br><br></div>Peter<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Ellen Paul <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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bills pending that would effectively kill the ESA.</p>
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<div>Something to watch in the U.S. with respect to the
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<div>Personally, I think they get both definitions wrong.
Species by proposing a 1% hybridization threshold and
subspecies by including genetics in the 75% rule. There are
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