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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Conserve O Grams are, of course, very useful and widely trusted and popular. It would be up to Joan Bachrach who manages this resource to decide whether it is broadly applicable to National Park Service staff but, until that time or, in addition, this seems like a topic that would do well on the SPNHC wiki site. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__spnhc.biowikifarm.net_wiki_Category-3ABest-5FPractices&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=0S6JqxPNnZnXrQvLWomFtyqOWhw3Yw1Toconiakexts&s=cZ1oVrg5dMdbvwyURerkwP4ciDan1dY8P3iIN34XNjQ&e=">http://spnhc.biowikifarm.net/wiki/Category:Best_Practices</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If any/all of the contributors to this thread volunteer to summarize the conversation and suggest appropriate solutions, I can ensure that it is posted on the site. That would also provide a way to distribute and cite the relevant information and it has the advantage of a fast turnaround time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rachael <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>SPNHC wiki editor<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rachael Perkins Arenstein<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A.M. Art Conservation, LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Conservation Treatment, Preservation Consulting & Collection Management<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tel: 917-796-1764<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amartconservation.com_&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=0S6JqxPNnZnXrQvLWomFtyqOWhw3Yw1Toconiakexts&s=_zk8ks6F13rCfrjtMDbVASyKF5IyLDwih2iQe9ysP_E&e=">www.amartconservation.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:rachael@amartconservation.com">rachael@amartconservation.com</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vanessa Rhue<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 10, 2018 11:49 AM<br><b>To:</b> Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de">dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Vermiculite as respiratory hazard<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps this topic could be written up in the NPS Conserve O Gram series. This might make the information easy to distribute and cite. Previous short papers have also been translated into Spanish.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nps.gov_museum_publications_conserveogram_cons-5Ftoc.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=40YOqNCR3eEeCG9mKKrc2b4Ih0f54HrGUv3aOOPApRU&s=dr-7FWWHogUs5tomAbI-VM7PIO-m2R8j7ViAGzYwezg&e=">Conserve O Gram</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.nps.gov_museum_publications_MHI_May-5F1-5F2008-2520COG-2520Author-2520Guidelines.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=40YOqNCR3eEeCG9mKKrc2b4Ih0f54HrGUv3aOOPApRU&s=yB0HE6lzybVKdx1zttLuFyHY2mtv82ir8LkgqNKu_Mk&e=">Submission Guidelines</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>VRR<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Vanessa R. Rhue<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Assistant Collections Manager<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Vertebrate Paleontology<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>900 Exposition Blvd.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Los Angeles, CA 90007<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:vrhue@nhm.org">vrhue@nhm.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tel. (213) 763-3248<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de" target="_blank">dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jeff & all<br><br>good idea - which countries/ languages would be needed ? So far, I have encountered vermiculite only in shipments from US institutions; never saw it in loans from European institutions. Maybe just Spanish would be sufficient?<br><br>Another option would be to notify institutions/colleagues shipping specimens on vermiculite about the potential health issues when such loans arrive/are discovered. We would thus reach also colleagues which do not follow NHColl conversations.<br><br>All the best<span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>Dirk </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>Am 09.02.2018 um 22:48 schrieb Jeff Stephenson:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Rob!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Is there a way we can get this translated into some other languages and spread the word among our international colleagues?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr 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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 09, 2018 2:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Vermiculite as respiratory hazard</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Very funny coincidence - James Maclain (NHM London) just brought this up in an internal conversation. Actually there is no reason to use it, and simple paper towels surely do even better as absorbent material for IATA packaging, compared to vermiculite. For A 180 packing, the requirement is that the absorbent material must be sufficient to hold the entire fluid per packaging in case of leakage. There are no further specifications, and even toilet paper would do a perfect job, but admittedly tends to be rather unstable compared to normal paper towels when wet.<br><br>When I receive such shipments, I carefully open the outer packaging and remove the vermiculite into a large zip-lock back and immediately rinse the inner packing under water to avoid the dust; vermiculite is also VERY electrostatic, and you have it just everywhere.<br><br>Thanks for pushing this, Rob!<br><br>Have a nice weekend<br>Dirk <br><br><br>Am 09.02.2018 um 20:19 schrieb Rob Robins:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have health and safety concerns regarding the use of vermiculite as an “outer packet” absorbency material in the shipping of alcohol preserved specimens. We have never used vermiculite in the Florida Museum Fish Collection, but I receive many specimen shipments containing it and thus must handle it. And as anyone who has touched the stuff can attest, no matter how carefully handled, tiny particles of vermiculite end up suspended in the air one is breathing. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>A number of scientific papers lead me to conclude my health and safety concerns are not unreasonable. Here’s some of what I’ve found:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m351839704406144352msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span> No matter where it was mined from, vermiculite is likely to contain fibrous minerals. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m351839704406144352msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span> That few of these types of fibrous minerals have been formally classified as asbestos and regulated as such would appear to be more a function of what fibers were in use commercially at the time the regulations were created. (Baumann, F., J. P. Ambrosi, and M. Carbone. 2013. Asbestos is not just asbestos: an unrecognized health hazard. The Lancet Vol 14 June 2013). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=m351839704406144352msolistparagraph><span style='font-family:Symbol'>·</span> To be certain, vermiculite has at times been found to contain asbestiform amphiboles (groups of needlelike silicates clumped together) such as winchite, richterite, and tremolite, the latter of which is regulated (Sullivan, P. 2007. Vermiculite, respiratory disease, and asbestos exposure in Libby, Montana: Update of a cohort mortality study. Environmental Health Perspectives Apr; 115 (4): 579-585).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My question to the list: <u>Why is anyone using vermiculite as an absorbent when inert and safe alternatives such as polypropylene chemical spill absorbent pads are widely and cheaply available?</u> Failing any good answer to this question, my follow up would be, can we all please stop?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Rob Robins<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>P.S. 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