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Hi Joan,<br><br>
Thanks for the invite! I've been interested in developing best practices
for wrapping and shipping specimens sent on institutional loan so this
thread piqued my interest. But since my expertise deals with vertebrate
fossils, a COG submission on this topic should probably come from someone
who regularly handles wet collections.<br><br>
Rachel's suggestion of the SPNHC Wiki is great too. I'm supportive of
both these initiatives. Getting H&S information out to the people
entrusted with handling these specimens and making decisions about
materials and methods for shipment is important. <br><br>
Cheers,<br><br>
VRR<br><br>
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Vanessa R. Rhue<br>
Assistant Collections Manager<br>
Department of Vertebrate Paleontology<br><br>
Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County<br>
900 Exposition Blvd<br>
Los Angeles, CA 90007<br>
Tel. (213) 763-3248<br>
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</a>At 10:11 AM 02/12/2018, Bacharach, Joan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Hi Rachael;<br><br>
We'd be pleased to have someone write a <i>Conserve O Gram</i> on the
topic. However, writing a <i>COG </i>can take time, given the
research and review process involved. I agree with you, having the
topic appear on the SPNHC wiki site would certainly ensure a timely
discussion. We can see if someone would like to volunteer to write
the <i>COG</i> -- what about it Vanessa? <br><br>
Joan<br><br>
<font color="#674EA7">Joan Bacharach<br>
Senior Curator<br>
Museum Management Program<br>
National Park Service<br>
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On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Rachael Perkins Arenstein
<<a href="mailto:rachael@amartconservation.com">
rachael@amartconservation.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd>Conserve O Grams are, of course, very useful and widely trusted and
popular. It would be up to Joan Bachrach who manages this resource
to decide whether it is broadly applicable to National Park Service staff
but, until that time or, in addition, this seems like a topic that would
do well on the SPNHC wiki site. <br><br>
<dd>
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http://spnhc.biowikifarm.net/wiki/Category:Best_Practices</a><br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>If any/all of the contributors to this thread volunteer to summarize
the conversation and suggest appropriate solutions, I can ensure that it
is posted on the site. That would also provide a way to distribute
and cite the relevant information and it has the advantage of a fast
turnaround time.<br><br>
<dd>Best,<br><br>
<dd>Rachael <br><br>
<dd>SPNHC wiki editor<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Rachael Perkins Arenstein<br><br>
<dd>A.M. Art Conservation, LLC<br><br>
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<dd> <br><br>
<dd>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">
nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>
[<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] On Behalf Of </b>Vanessa
Rhue<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 10, 2018 11:49 AM<br>
<dd>To:</b> Dirk Neumann
<<a href="mailto:dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de">dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de</a>
><br>
<dd>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>
<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Vermiculite as respiratory
hazard<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Perhaps this topic could be written up in the NPS Conserve O Gram
series. This might make the information easy to distribute and cite.
Previous short papers have also been translated into Spanish.<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>
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<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Cheers,<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>VRR<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Vanessa R. Rhue<br><br>
<dd>Assistant Collections Manager<br><br>
<dd>Vertebrate Paleontology<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County<br><br>
<dd>900 Exposition Blvd.<br><br>
<dd>Los Angeles, CA 90007<br><br>
<dd><a href="mailto:vrhue@nhm.org">vrhue@nhm.org</a><br><br>
<dd>Tel. (213) 763-3248<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Dirk Neumann
<<a href="mailto:dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de">dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de</a>
> wrote:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd>Hi Jeff & all<br><br>
<dd>good idea - which countries/ languages would be needed ? So far, I
have encountered vermiculite only in shipments from US institutions;
never saw it in loans from European institutions. Maybe just Spanish
would be sufficient?<br><br>
<dd>Another option would be to notify institutions/colleagues shipping
specimens on vermiculite about the potential health issues when such
loans arrive/are discovered. We would thus reach also colleagues which do
not follow NHColl conversations.<br><br>
<dd>All the best<br>
<dd>Dirk <br><br>
<br><br>
<dd>Am 09.02.2018 um 22:48 schrieb Jeff Stephenson:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd>Thanks Rob!<br><br>
<dd>Is there a way we can get this translated into some other languages
and spread the word among our international colleagues?<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>JEFF STEPHENSON<br>
</b><br>
<dd>COLLECTIONS MANAGER, ZOOLOGY DEPARTMENT<br>
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<dd>From:</b>
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nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>
[<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" eudora="autourl">
mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] On Behalf Of </b>Dirk
Neumann<br>
<dd>Sent:</b> Friday, February 09, 2018 2:42 PM<br>
<dd>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>
<br>
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Vermiculite as respiratory
hazard<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Very funny coincidence - James Maclain (NHM London) just brought this
up in an internal conversation. Actually there is no reason to use it,
and simple paper towels surely do even better as absorbent material for
IATA packaging, compared to vermiculite. For A 180 packing, the
requirement is that the absorbent material must be sufficient to hold the
entire fluid per packaging in case of leakage. There are no further
specifications, and even toilet paper would do a perfect job, but
admittedly tends to be rather unstable compared to normal paper towels
when wet.<br><br>
<dd>When I receive such shipments, I carefully open the outer packaging
and remove the vermiculite into a large zip-lock back and immediately
rinse the inner packing under water to avoid the dust; vermiculite is
also VERY electrostatic, and you have it just everywhere.<br><br>
<dd>Thanks for pushing this, Rob!<br><br>
<dd>Have a nice weekend<br>
<dd>Dirk <br><br>
<br>
<dd>Am 09.02.2018 um 20:19 schrieb Rob Robins:<br>
<dl><br>
<dd>Hi Folks,<br><br>
<dd>I have health and safety concerns regarding the use of vermiculite as
an “outer packet” absorbency material in the shipping of
alcohol preserved specimens. We have never used vermiculite in the
Florida Museum Fish Collection, but I receive many specimen shipments
containing it and thus must handle it. And as anyone who has touched the
stuff can attest, no matter how carefully handled, tiny particles of
vermiculite end up suspended in the air one is breathing. <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>A number of scientific papers lead me to conclude my health and
safety concerns are not unreasonable. Here’s some of what I’ve
found:<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>· No matter where it
was mined from, vermiculite is likely to contain fibrous minerals.
<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>· That few of these
types of fibrous minerals have been formally classified as asbestos and
regulated as such would appear to be more a function of what fibers were
in use commercially at the time the regulations were created. (Baumann,
F., J. P. Ambrosi, and M. Carbone. 2013. Asbestos is not just asbestos:
an unrecognized health hazard. The Lancet Vol 14 June 2013). <br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>· To be certain,
vermiculite has at times been found to contain asbestiform amphiboles
(groups of needlelike silicates clumped together) such as winchite,
richterite, and tremolite, the latter of which is regulated (Sullivan, P.
2007. Vermiculite, respiratory disease, and asbestos exposure in Libby,
Montana: Update of a cohort mortality study. Environmental Health
Perspectives Apr; 115 (4): 579-585).<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>My question to the list: Why is anyone using vermiculite as an
absorbent when inert and safe alternatives such as polypropylene chemical
spill absorbent pads are widely and cheaply available?</u> Failing any
good answer to this question, my follow up would be, can we all please
stop?<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Best wishes,<br><br>
<br>
<dd>Rob Robins<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>P.S. The Baumann paper concludes thusly, and I agree:<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>“The restricted regulatory definition of asbestos to six fibres
used commercially contributes to miscommunication and uncertainty
regarding the toxic effects of some fibrous minerals. We propose that all
fibrous minerals be handled as potentially pathogenic until they are
proven safe. Moreover, to protect human health, a wider regulatory
definition of asbestos should include all potentially carcinogenic
mineral fibres, without distinction of type and commercial
use.”<br><br>
<dd> <br><br>
<dd>Robert H. Robins<br><br>
<dd>Collection Manager<br><br>
<dd>Division of Ichthyology<br><br>
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Zoology</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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DNA-Storage</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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21</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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München</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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DNA-Storage</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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21</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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DNA-Storage</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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21</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br>
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