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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=DE-CH link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I’m working on a huge restauration project involving over 1000 jars (</span><span lang=EN-US>Ichthyology collection)</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> that have to be resealed or replaced because most of them are broken. After long research and discussion whit lots of museum taxidermist colleagues if come to the conclusion that the best sealed jar is one with negative pressure, like marmalade jar. The negative pressure can be reached in an desiccator or a foodsealing machine. We are trying here at the museum to get a big vacuum-chamber to pressurize lots of jars at the same time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Studies of a colleague have proved that with this method there is almost no loss of liquid. Off course the best would be to use the boro silicate jars, but still this method gives good results in normal natrum-soda jars. Sadly the article on this subject is in german. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Any suggestions or comments on the subject of vacuuming jars?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>*******************************************<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=45 height=21 id="Bild_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D3B07F.DD8C7020" alt=nmbe-logo><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fabian Neisskenwirth<br>Zoologischer Präparator<br>Naturhistorisches Museum der Burgergemeinde Bern<br>Bernastrasse 15<br>CH-3005 Bern<br><br>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:fabian.neisskenwirth@nmbe.ch"><span style='color:blue'>fabian.neisskenwirth@nmbe.ch</span></a><br>Telefon: ++41 (0)31 350 72 35<br>Fax: ++41 (0)31 350 74 99<br>Web: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nmbe.ch_&d=DwMFAw&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=wdMgufJ8KuepeI35OnmnrosjUnGQbkk-Dhk7WuRcrso&s=PMK-mqdaMILX0gMgYpqooKI7gxMQ11tbvTNWd2tH-SM&e="><span style='color:blue'>www.nmbe.ch</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'>P </span><i><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:green'>Bitte denken Sie an die Umwelt, bevor Sie dieses Mail drucken. </span></i><i><span lang=IT-CH style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:green'>Avon da stampar questa communicaziun patertgei vid igl ambient. 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Februar 2018 08:13<br><b>An:</b> Jean-Marc Gagnon; Mike Rutherford; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] jar lids<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good morning Jean-Marc, Mike & Andy!<br><br>We have metal lids since the 1990ies in our collection. At the moment, I occasionally have to replace those which have and additional PE foil originally thought and introduced to improve the closure. In fact it traps condensates and accelerates deterioration (rusting ) of lids.<br><br>As we have huge troubles with our climate control systems since several years (system dates back to 1985 and never worked properly, leading to RH shift btw. 80-30 %, yesterday I was even below 30% ..) and temperature shifts ranging from 16-24°C, metal lids in our collection are all but under stable, controlled conditions. Adding to this, we have the quite aggressive ketone MEK as denaturant. Still, the metal lids do fine, and our observations in Munich largely agree with observations Emily Dock made in Stockholm. (<span style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Warén, A., E. Dock-Åkerman, and H. Taylor. 2010. Metal-lid jars in museum collections? <i>Collection Forum</i> 24(1-2):52-61.)</span> <br><br>Perhaps there is a difference in industry norms or production standards between North America and Europe ? I know the Steigerwald & Laframboise paper, but the question of taping all jars (and re-doing all taping once the jars are opened) is a simple cost-benefit question: a metal lid is less then 10 cent and replacing a lid is less then 5 seconds, re-doing the taping takes 1-2 minutes plus tape costs. We have a rather small, but heavily frequented collection, so replacing metal lids is the cheaper option for us.<br><br>My observation is that PP-lids with PE-liners do fine up to 45 mm neck opening. Above that (50 mm), closures are not that good and jars show increased evaporation issues. So our strategy at the moment is: PP-lids with PE-Liners for 100ml-300 ml jars (rarely 500-1000 with 50 mmm necks), 1200-1700 ml jars with metal lids and above only borosilicate with plane or ground stopper closures (typical sizes are 300 mm x 80 mm and 300 x 150 mm for flanged and 400 x 150 mm & 600 x 200 mm for stoppered). <br><br>Mike's question was to replace metal lids for jars which were designed for metal lids. Because of the narrow threads of those jars and the fact that opening would be rather wide (if I understood Mike's question correctly), I doubt that PP-screw on lids for diameters above 50 mm would be a could replacement. Independent of this I definitely agree that replacement of entire jars (compromised metal lids in jars with necks up to 50 mm in diameter) with jars with PP-lids would be a good idea. Depending on the climatic conditions inside storage. PP lids with PE liners are surely a much better oxygen barrier compared to PVC.-lids, but still allow diffusion of oxygen. Metal lids have a better performance in this regard.<br><br>In the end there are several trade-offs and no straight forwards solution, I guess.<br><br>All the best<br>Dirk<br><br><br>Am 27.02.2018 um 21:41 schrieb Jean-Marc Gagnon:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Dirk,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I was a little surprised by your response, promoting metal lids as opposed to Polypropylene lids. We (at CMN) have not had any success with metal lids, even with what seems to be reasonable, ethanol-resistant liners. Even the metal lids designed for Mason Jars, commonly used for preserves in North America, will rust after a while.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>In all our fluid-preserved collections, we have been using with great success Polypropylene lids for decades (of course, with two full tread turns), along with the F217 PE liner and sealing tape (see Steigerwald and Laframboise (1996). TAPE APPLICATION: A JAR SEALING METHOD FOR REDUCING ETHANOL EVAPORATION IN FLUID-PRESERVED COLLECTIONS. Collection Forum Volume 12, Number 2).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>While we haven’t quantitatively measured that success, I can tell you that in our wet Mollusc Collection, prior to 2002, we would have many jars needing retopping after only a few years (they often only had the PP lids with no liner or tape). But after applying the standard I described above in 2002, we literally haven’t had to retop the ethanol in any of the jars in the past 15-16 years. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Is it always perfect: No. But we have had very little failure in these lids and liners. The tape is always reapplied fresh if a jar needs to be open; it is relatively inexpensive (from Spectape Inc.) so that I not an issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I hope this helps.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jean-Marc</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Jean-Marc Gagnon, Ph.D.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Curator/Conservateur, Invertebrate Collections/Collections de invertébrés</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Tel : 613-364-4066, email/courriel : </span><a href="mailto:jmgagnon@nature.ca"><span lang=FR-CA>jmgagnon@nature.ca</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nature.ca_en_research-2Dcollections_science-2Dexperts_jean-2Dmarc-2Dgagnon&d=DwMD-g&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=s5Uu9tUNMVVYSQvDDO8rz4b-5I-jDDCUJegy1iHedJY&s=hxfLWy84Nisq5tiH0bXcCnhWGJpc0bps8yz7nbP9Xrk&e="><span lang=FR-CA>https://nature.ca/en/research-collections/science-experts/jean-marc-gagnon</span></a><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Research & Collections / Recherche & Collections</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'>Canadian Museum of Nature /Musée canadien de la nature</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CA style='color:#1F497D'>P.O. 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However, because of the narrow thread of twist-off jars, I am not entirely sure of the metal lids can be easily replaced with plastic lids. The latter usually need higher threads because plastic lids tend to be deformed when screwed tight. This is the reason why jars with plastic lids normally have two fully closed thread turns, compared to jars with metal lids which usually only have half thread turns. <br><br>Moreover, plastic lids (e.g. PE or PP lids) do not form a good barrier against oxygen, and changing lids might increase or trigger oxidation issues inside jars.<br><br>My advice would be to look into modern metal lids designed for food industry to close jars with sour ingredients (compared to lids for sweet stuff such as jam or honey); these usually have thicker liners inside which protect lids against scratching. Also made bad experiences with (self-designed) PE-foil inlays, an earlier curator introduced in our collection: the foil is no good barrier against compounds evaporation from holding fluids, but a perfect trap to hold condensates inside a tiny, highly corrosive atmosphere lid and foil which tends to accelerate deterioration of metal lids. <br><br>Might be worth to check in the food sector for replacement lids or inquire such suppliers where to find 130mm lids.<br><br>All the best<br>Dirk<br><br>Am 21.02.2018 um 21:57 schrieb Mike Rutherford:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’m trying to source large polypropylene screw top lids for some glass jars I have in my museum. The jars are wide mouthed and squat, making them ideal for those weird shaped specimens but the current lids are thin metal ones which are corroding badly. 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