<div dir="ltr">Hi Adam,<div><br></div><div>We have 2.5 million pairs of otoliths here at the UW Fish Collection and I'm happy to chat with you about how we manage the collection. In short, the otoliths are collected by NMFS and are put into glass vials at sea and stored in styrofoam boxes to keep them safe and organized in the field. We then transfer them into archival cardboard boxes and store them in a dedicated room on compactor shelving. Currently any preparations are stored in the box with the otoliths. We have not run into any space issues with this yet, but I can see that happening. We would probably then need to have a designated spot for preparations and just cross-reference everything so we know where to find them.</div><div><br></div><div>Feel free to call or email me to chat further. (<a href="mailto:pearsonk@uw.edu">pearsonk@uw.edu</a>), (206)543-3816.</div><div><br></div><div>-Katherine</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Adam Cohen (Univ. TX) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:acohen@austin.utexas.edu" target="_blank">acohen@austin.utexas.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">

<div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">We are about to greatly increase our otolith holdings so it seems like a good time to seek advise from this group to develop a consistent system. Currently our rather small otolith collection includes specimens stored in a variety of containers and w<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">e've mostly been putting them in gel caps (one cap for each of left and right side).</span>

 We'd like to develop a single robust system to store all of our otoliths and potential derivatives (whole otoliths, slide mounted sections, etc) and keep all material from single individuals together.</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I was thinking of using 4X4in plastic bags (</span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.grainger.com_category_reclosable-2Dpoly-2Dbags_bags-2Dand-2Dbag-2Daccessories_packaging-2Dand-2Dshipping_material-2Dhandling_ecatalog_N-2D18ck-3Fokey-3Dzip-2Bbags-26mkey-3Dzip-2Bbags-26refineSearchString-3Dzip-2Bbags-26NLSCM-3D14-26EndecaKeyword-3Dzip-2Bbags-26searchBar-3Dtrue-26searchRedirect-3Dzip-2Bbags-26sst-3Dsubset-23nav-3D-252Fcategory-252Freclosable-2Dpoly-2Dbags-252Fbags-2Dand-2Dbag-2Daccessories-252Fpackaging-2Dand-2Dshipping-252Fmaterial-2Dhandling-252Fecatalog-252FN-2D18ckZ1yz82iqZ1yz729aZ1z0o0mzZ1yyw9inZ1z0ntw6-252FNtt-2Dzip-252Bbags-253FEndecaKeyword-253Dzip-252Bbags-2526NLSCM-253D14-2526searchRedirect-253Dzip-252Bbags-2526sst-253Dsubset&d=DwMFaQ&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=-uQlRhbOqZiAg7iBthYtbBVVETJuCONdt09RfYLy6kM&s=jWHdITdGayUOEX3Sx8DttdwF8UJSzyIEAHM3Lb5-KRw&e=" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank">something like this link</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">) with a somewhat rigid Datamax label of same size inserted, including a catalog number in the upper left. I think we could store a wide variety of otoliths and d</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">er</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline">ivatives i</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">n these, thus keeping all material from a single individual together. We'd file each bag, stored upright, in a 4X4X?? box. Specifically:</span></div></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">1) What's your experience with gel caps? Since they are biodegradable I am dubious about using them long-term. Some sort of screw cap vial seems better.</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">2) What sorts of otolith derivatives might we ever expect to see. Here's my list (please add): whole otoliths, slide mounted sections, resin encapsulated pieces??</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">3) What else are people doing to store otoliths?</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Adam</div>

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