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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Apologies to bring this up again,<br>
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      the barcoding community uses photo vouchers (of material deposited
      elsewhere in collections) frequently and they have a procedure for
      this (also clarifying the question on the rights on the photos),
      but I can't find the exact source for this. Some details can be
      found here:<br>
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      Might help - all the best<br>
      Dirk<br>
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      Am 02.05.2018 um 23:29 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yes,
            our Deed of Gift was not developed with digital products in
            mind and we have been meaning to update it with such
            verbiage for some time.  Maybe this will give me the kick I
            need </span><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"
            lang="EN-AU">    A  :             A  :             A  :<br>
             }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°><br>
                V                V                V<br>
            Andy Bentley<br>
            Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
            University of Kansas<br>
            Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"
            lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
            1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
            Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
            USA<br>
            <br>
            Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
            Fax: (785) 864-5335 <br>
            Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu"
              moz-do-not-send="true">abentley@ku.edu</a>  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-AU">SPNHC Past-President<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
            Nhcoll-l <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a>
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dean Pentcheff<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:20 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] photo vouchering and tissues
            questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">As far
                as I can see, the KU Deed of Gift applies to objects,
                not intellectual property (like photographs). But, as
                they say, I am (definitely!) not a lawyer, so...<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">And yes,
              we'd definitely track the photographer's name (similarly
              to the collector's name) as a piece of information
              independent from who holds what rights to the image.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Side issue... the Creative department
            here, a few years ago, got so tangled/fed up
            with/exasperated regarding which rights we had to which
            images (not collection/specimen images, but things like a
            picture of the Museum building) they they have pretty much
            given up accepting any images other than those for which we
            have full copyright. In effect, that means no photos from
            anyone other than a photographer paid by the Museum.
            <o:p></o:p></p>
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                              -- <br>
                              Dean Pentcheff<br>
                              <a href="mailto:pentcheff@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pentcheff@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:25 PM Gregory
              Schneider <<a href="mailto:ges@umich.edu"
                moz-do-not-send="true">ges@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I thought that was what Andy's
                  (KU's) Deed of Gift accomplishes. We do the same at
                  UMMZ, Herpetology.  I would not accession / catalogue
                  photo vouchers unless the photographer signs over
                  their rights to the Regents of the University of
                  Michigan.  (But our database still lists them as the
                  photographer.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050">Greg
                                Schneider<br>
                                Division of Reptiles and Amphibians<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050">Museum
                                of Zoology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050">Research
                                Museums Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                Varsity Drive<br>
                                University of Michigan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050">Ann
                                Arbor, Michigan 48108<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                647 1927 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                href="mailto:ges@umich.edu"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                  style="color:#1155CC">ges@umich.edu</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#500050"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 3:16 PM,
                  Dean Pentcheff <<a
                    href="mailto:pentcheff@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">pentcheff@gmail.com</a>>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">An
                        issue with photo vouchers (as distinct from
                        physical specimens) would be the copyright
                        status of the image — unlike a specimen or
                        tissue, it is legally considered to be a
                        creative product. If the image was taken by
                        someone as part of their paid job, the copyright
                        most likely belongs to their employer. If it was
                        taken by someone acting privately, outside of
                        their job, then the individual most likely has
                        copyright over the image. (This applies to U.S.
                        copyright law; I don't know the details outside
                        of the U.S.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">If an image is going to be
                      deposited with the museum, I'd strongly recommend
                      getting a formal copyright transfer to the museum.
                      It could be a complete transfer (analogous to
                      donating a specimen), where the museum now has
                      full copyright control, or an arrangement that the
                      museum gets the right to perpetual non-exclusive
                      use of the image for any purpose. Your museum
                      counsel should be able to draft a release form
                      (and I'd definitely recommend having a lawyer do
                      this — intellectual property law is not
                      straightforward).<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">-Dean<br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      Dean Pentcheff<br>
                                      <a
                                        href="mailto:pentcheff@gmail.com"
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 1, 2018 at
                            6:20 AM Kirsten Nicholson <<a
                              href="mailto:norops@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">norops@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Our museum is revising
                              its policies and I'm looking for
                              information on two points.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>First: can anybody
                                  share with me their policies on
                                  accepting photos as vouchers for
                                  specimens if you do this?</b> I have
                                trolled the web for policies on this,
                                but haven't been able to pull any up. I
                                know that in the realm of herpetology we
                                sometimes publish short notes on
                                geographic range extensions or natural
                                history observations that include photos
                                confirming the species ID (and
                                associated data) in instances where you
                                can't or are unable to capture and or
                                make that specimen a museum voucher. But
                                what are your policies on this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Second: does
                                  anybody make requirements regarding
                                  credit attribution to the collector
                                  when specimens or tissues are used in
                                  publication?
                                </b>I've trolled through tissue policies
                                from several museums, and they are all
                                pretty similar, but did not see this in
                                them and was curious. I know many years
                                ago when museums began establishing
                                genetic tissue collections there were
                                some issues that came up regarding the
                                use of large numbers of tissues
                                collected by someone else and then
                                publishing that data without crediting
                                the collector, who in one case happened
                                to still be very much alive. The
                                counter-argument at the time was
                                likening the tissues to voucher
                                specimens, no one puts Cope or Agassizi
                                as co-authors of their papers even if
                                they used nothing but and only specimens
                                collected by them. I assume most
                                museums' policies state that tissues,
                                like specimens, are donated to the
                                museum and become museum property and
                                all rights to them (unless otherwise
                                negotiated) are relinquished by the
                                collector. Does anybody do anything
                                differently?<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for any
                                thoughts you can share,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Kirsten<br
                                  clear="all">
                                <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="color:#006600;background:white">Kirsten E. Nicholson, Ph.D<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </span><i><span
                                              style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#006600;background:white">Prof.
                                              of  Biology          and  
                                                        Curator of
                                              Natural History<br>
                                              Dept. of Biology          
                                                                Museum
                                              of Cultural and Natural
                                              History<br>
                                              2104 Biosciences          
                                                              103 Rowe
                                              Hall<br>
                                              Central Michigan Univ.    
                                                          Central
                                              Michigan University <br>
                                              Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859    
                                                          Mt. Pleasant,
                                              MI 48859<br>
                                              989-774-3758              
                                                              
                                              989-774-3829</span></i><b><i><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#336666;background:black"><br>
                                              </span></i></b><i><span
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