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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">An option that may work within your tank is one I sometimes utilize within a jar, polyethylene plastic sleeves. Each sleeve holds the specimen, its label, and is perforated to share the preservative of the jar.
See attached photo. This would not be suitable if you are preserving the specimens as environmental DNA vouchers where you definitely would not want preservative sharing. The poly sleeve would have to be robust enough to match the size of the specimen when
being handled. Another option might be to custom cut and perforated sheets of acrylic to slide into the tank to separate specimens, similar to what aquarium hobbyists use to separate living fish within a single tank.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thomas E. Labedz, Collections Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Division of Zoology and Division of Botany<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">University of Nebraska State Museum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>DjanChekar, Nathalie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">A tangent on this topic…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">For the first time, we recently purchased stainless steel tanks for the storage of several large specimens. To optimize space and cost, we would like to store several specimens (not necessarily of the same taxa)
per tank. The questions that we’re struggling with are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Should we be concerned with several specimens “sharing” preservative? If so, how can we isolate them from one another?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Should we be concerned about compression? If so, how do we prevent it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Some specimens are fragile, with loose parts, how do we protect them and keep everything together, including labels?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for your sharing your expertise and experience!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Nathalie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D">Nathalie Djan-Chékar</span></b><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D"> - Natural History Collections Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D">(709) 757-8082 (W) |
<a href="mailto:nathaliedjanchekar@therooms.ca"><span style="color:blue">nathaliedjanchekar@therooms.ca</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D">Provincial Museum Division<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:#1F497D">The Rooms Corporation of Newfoundland and Labrador<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Nhcoll-l [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bentley, Andrew Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August-08-19 4:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">neumann@snsb.de</a>; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">
nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Numerous reasons:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#1F497D">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Shipping cost for us would be exorbitant</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#1F497D">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Shelving – we do not have spaces that can accommodate such large (tall) jars</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span style="color:#1F497D">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Safety – I can only imagine how unstable one of those would be in pour part of the world.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We mainly use stainless steel tanks for long term storage of large specimens.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1F497D">Dyche Hall<br>
<a href="x-apple-data-detectors://9">1345 Jayhawk Boulevard</a><br>
<a href="x-apple-data-detectors://9">Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561</a><br>
<a href="x-apple-data-detectors://9">USA</a><br>
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Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank">(785) 864-5335</a> <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu_&d=DwMFAw&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=86XRfiEiz4xIoDMkFCb3Vg&m=8uIzSB8bqqlYW1Mb7tazrFkjrOp6-y4wNjvUZUPbDxk&s=9fuVxCZJUdOdZKZ_09-zMzFPRFN7hsz8cOOOITT5Q7k&e=" target="_blank">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="color:windowtext"> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">... just out of curiosity:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">the largest polycarbonate container, item 107-1222, 14,78'' x 15'' (roughly 37 x 38 cm ) costs 328.90 U$ (293,45 EUR). The borosilicate jar I recently purchased to accommodate our new black-tip reef shark measures 120 cm x 20 cm (approx.
47'' x 7,90'') and costs 291,00 EUR.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apparently the polycarbonate containers are more expensive then high quality borosilicate jars. Why not preferring borosilicate ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the best<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dirk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 08.08.2019 um 17:03 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tonya</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Our herpetology collection has been experimenting with these in the collection for short to medium term storage. They seal fairly well, are relatively inexpensive (and light to ship) and have the added benefit
of being clear so that you can see contents and fluid levels. They come in various sizes and tack fairly well:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.universityproducts.com-252Fpolycarbonate-2Dstorage-2Dpails-2Dfor-2Dwet-2Dcollections.html-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257Ca6f4b92eb6ad4adb1d8908d71c30f48a-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637008869294674429-26sdata-3Diz95TVBeQvoN4GASeO52hPKMKHaKo8lyW7fkaWmzz-252F8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=86XRfiEiz4xIoDMkFCb3Vg&m=8uIzSB8bqqlYW1Mb7tazrFkjrOp6-y4wNjvUZUPbDxk&s=7_N1JAZkpovfPukYAI0JvyzzUA3B_noABHN3c2cE1wY&e=">https://www.universityproducts.com/polycarbonate-storage-pails-for-wet-collections.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hope that helps</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1F497D">Dyche Hall<br>
<a href="x-apple-data-detectors://9">1345 Jayhawk Boulevard</a><br>
<a href="x-apple-data-detectors://9">Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561</a><br>
<a href="x-apple-data-detectors://9">USA</a><br>
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Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank">(785) 864-5335</a> <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu_&d=DwMFAw&c=Cu5g146wZdoqVuKpTNsYHeFX_rg6kWhlkLF8Eft-wwo&r=86XRfiEiz4xIoDMkFCb3Vg&m=8uIzSB8bqqlYW1Mb7tazrFkjrOp6-y4wNjvUZUPbDxk&s=9fuVxCZJUdOdZKZ_09-zMzFPRFN7hsz8cOOOITT5Q7k&e=" target="_blank">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">
<nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I need to order some buckets for storing larger fluid-preserved specimens in. Eventually we would like to go to stainless steel containers, but right now that’s not an option…. Anyway, I am wondering if polypropylene
buckets are acceptable in terms of archival quality (I realise they will eventually fail) and if not, if anyone has a better recommendation for a relatively cheap solution?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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