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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Grease on ground jar stoppers: Years ago (1960s) my recollection is that ground jar stoppers worked best left uncoated, at least if they were older ones that were ground with some precision. Trouble was usually associated with inadvertent mixing the jars and stoppers such that the fitting was imprecise thereby allowing evaporation (and necesitating some kind of fix). Newer productions may not be fitted with as much precision if not designed for fluid use.<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 12:09:48 PM EST, nhcoll-l-request@mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l-request@mailman.yale.edu> wrote:
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Question about jar grease in fluid collections (Esther Dondorp)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 2. Re: Question about jar grease in fluid collections (Dirk Neumann)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 3. Re: Question about jar grease in fluid collections (Simon Moore)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 4. Re: Question about jar grease in fluid collections (Callomon,Paul)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 5. Re: Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"> (Lazo-Wasem, Eric)<br></div><div dir="ltr"> 6. Re: Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"> (Trimble, Jennifer Winifred)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:32:00 +0100<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Esther Dondorp <<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:CAGaR2xerRdY4H5C9onwcK-xOhaG9ocFK_CU1DT2N5Kc0VSKEGQ@mail.gmail.com" href="mailto:CAGaR2xerRdY4H5C9onwcK-xOhaG9ocFK_CU1DT2N5Kc0VSKEGQ@mail.gmail.com">CAGaR2xerRdY4H5C9onwcK-xOhaG9ocFK_CU1DT2N5Kc0VSKEGQ@mail.gmail.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Just a short question - we always use vaseline to seal gound jar stoppers,<br></div><div dir="ltr">now that we cannot use our old supplier anymore the support department<br></div><div dir="ltr">ordered the commercial vaseline petroleum jelly like this<br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://www.drogisterij.net/verzorging/lichaamsverzorging/lichaamsverzorging-verzorging/creme/vaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634?partnercode=222&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE" target="_blank">https://www.drogisterij.net/verzorging/lichaamsverzorging/lichaamsverzorging-verzorging/creme/vaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634?partnercode=222&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">one. I was wondering if we can use it or that it has additional additives<br></div><div dir="ltr">that can effect the balance inside the jar. Is there an acid free or other<br></div><div dir="ltr">alternative? Wondering what other people use!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr">Senior Collectiebeheerder<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">+31717519313 - -<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a> - www.naturalis.nl<br></div><div dir="ltr">Darwinweg 2, 2333 CR Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr">Postbus 9517, 2300 RA Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><<a href="https://www.naturalis.nl/over-ons" target="_blank">https://www.naturalis.nl/over-ons</a>> <<a href="https://www.naturalis.nl/lang-leve" target="_blank">https://www.naturalis.nl/lang-leve</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.yale.edu/pipermail/nhcoll-l/attachments/20200227/17704a6c/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.yale.edu/pipermail/nhcoll-l/attachments/20200227/17704a6c/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:47:10 +0100<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Dirk Neumann <<a ymailto="mailto:neumann@snsb.de" href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">neumann@snsb.de</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:52369542-df01-4878-9c80-011dcefbbf5a@snsb.de" href="mailto:52369542-df01-4878-9c80-011dcefbbf5a@snsb.de">52369542-df01-4878-9c80-011dcefbbf5a@snsb.de</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Esther,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">vaseline has few disadvantages<br></div><div dir="ltr">1. it tends to flow inside the jar (especially if you need to close <br></div><div dir="ltr">uneven battery jars etc. with increased amounts of vaseline to produce a <br></div><div dir="ltr">proper seal)<br></div><div dir="ltr">2. it tends to attract additional moisture evaporating from inside the <br></div><div dir="ltr">jar (turning the jelly glossy - usually a good indicator when it slowly <br></div><div dir="ltr">starts running)<br></div><div dir="ltr">3. it sometimes may get backed (might be linked with low RH values <br></div><div dir="ltr">inside storage).<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">We changed around 2000 to a silicon-free vacuum joint grease called <br></div><div dir="ltr">Alsirol with good results. It is produced from a small company in <br></div><div dir="ltr">Bamberg, Germany and formerly was also distributed (at least in Germany) <br></div><div dir="ltr">via VWR, FisherScientific apparently is also offering it<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.fishersci.de/shop/products/joint-grease-1/10130201" target="_blank">https://www.fishersci.de/shop/products/joint-grease-1/10130201</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">But you can also contact and order directly <a href="http://www.poellath-labor.de/" target="_blank">http://www.poellath-labor.de/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">The containers are rather small (only 50 ml), but Alsirol is very <br></div><div dir="ltr">economic and you only need little to produce a proper closure (too much <br></div><div dir="ltr">in fact even is disadvantageous). As it is very greasy and stable, it is <br></div><div dir="ltr">possible to build it up on uneven flanges or battery jars.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hope this helps, with best wishes<br></div><div dir="ltr">Dirk<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Am 27.02.2020 um 15:32 schrieb Esther Dondorp:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Dear all,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Just a short question - we always use vaseline?to seal gound?jar <br></div><div dir="ltr">> stoppers, now that we cannot use our old supplier anymore the support <br></div><div dir="ltr">> department ordered the commercial vaseline?petroleum jelly likethis <br></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a href="https://www.drogisterij.net/verzorging/lichaamsverzorging/lichaamsverzorging-verzorging/creme/vaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634?partnercode=222&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE" target="_blank">https://www.drogisterij.net/verzorging/lichaamsverzorging/lichaamsverzorging-verzorging/creme/vaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634?partnercode=222&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE</a>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> one. I was wondering if we can use it or that it has additional <br></div><div dir="ltr">> additives that can effect?the balance inside the jar. Is there an acid <br></div><div dir="ltr">> free or other alternative? Wondering what other people use!<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Senior Collectiebeheerder<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _+31717519313 - -<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:_esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:_esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">_esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a> <mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>> - <br></div><div dir="ltr">> www.naturalis.nl <<a href="https://www.naturalis.nl" target="_blank">https://www.naturalis.nl</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _Darwinweg 2, 2333 CR Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr">> _Postbus 9517, 2300 RA Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <<a href="https://www.naturalis.nl/lang-leve" target="_blank">https://www.naturalis.nl/lang-leve</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Nhcoll-l mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a ymailto="mailto:Nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:Nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">Nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l" target="_blank">https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">><br></div><div dir="ltr">> _______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose<br></div><div dir="ltr">> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of<br></div><div dir="ltr">> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to<br></div><div dir="ltr">> society. 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The Alsirol I have used to good effect thus far for at least 7 years but some say it?s quite expensive at E33 per 50ml tub; however, as Dirk suggested, you do only need a thin smear to seal a jar effectively. To that end you only need a small amount of any of the greasy sealants - too much and they gradually flow down into the jar and the lid can ?float? on the excess sealant. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">With all good wishes, Simon.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR<br></div><div dir="ltr">Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian, <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">www.natural-history-conservation.com <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">> On 27 Feb 2020, at 14:47, Dirk Neumann <<a ymailto="mailto:neumann@snsb.de" href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">neumann@snsb.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hi Esther,<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> vaseline has few disadvantages<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 1. it tends to flow inside the jar (especially if you need to close uneven battery jars etc. with increased amounts of vaseline to produce a proper seal)<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 2. it tends to attract additional moisture evaporating from inside the jar (turning the jelly glossy - usually a good indicator when it slowly starts running)<br></div><div dir="ltr">> 3. it sometimes may get backed (might be linked with low RH values inside storage).<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> We changed around 2000 to a silicon-free vacuum joint grease called Alsirol with good results. It is produced from a small company in Bamberg, Germany and formerly was also distributed (at least in Germany) via VWR, FisherScientific apparently is also offering it<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <a href="https://www.fishersci.de/shop/products/joint-grease-1/10130201" target="_blank">https://www.fishersci.de/shop/products/joint-grease-1/10130201</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> But you can also contact and order directly <a href="http://www.poellath-labor.de/" target="_blank">http://www.poellath-labor.de/</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> The containers are rather small (only 50 ml), but Alsirol is very economic and you only need little to produce a proper closure (too much in fact even is disadvantageous). As it is very greasy and stable, it is possible to build it up on uneven flanges or battery jars.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Hope this helps, with best wishes<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Dirk<br></div><div dir="ltr">> <br></div><div dir="ltr">> Am 27.02.2020 um 15:32 schrieb Esther Dondorp:<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Dear all,<br></div><div dir="ltr">>> <br></div><div dir="ltr">>> Just a short question - we always use vaseline to seal gound jar stoppers, now that we cannot use our old supplier anymore the support department ordered the commercial vaseline petroleum jelly like this one. I was wondering if we can use it or that it has additional additives that can effect the balance inside the jar. Is there an acid free or other alternative? 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See <a href="http://www.spnhc.org " target="_blank">http://www.spnhc.org </a>for membership information.<br></div><div dir="ltr">> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 15:47:15 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Callomon,Paul" <<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Esther Dondorp <<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> "<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:DM6PR01MB46508C29E9450E496A4A16D8C3EB0@DM6PR01MB4650.prod.exchangelabs.com" href="mailto:DM6PR01MB46508C29E9450E496A4A16D8C3EB0@DM6PR01MB4650.prod.exchangelabs.com">DM6PR01MB46508C29E9450E496A4A16D8C3EB0@DM6PR01MB4650.prod.exchangelabs.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I use vacuum grease, which is more stable than Vaseline and apparently insoluble in ethanol, water or formaldehyde. Dow-Corning make it.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">PC<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Paul Callomon<br></div><div dir="ltr">Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates<br></div><div dir="ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia<br></div><div dir="ltr">1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nhcoll-l <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> On Behalf Of Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:32 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">External.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Just a short question - we always use vaseline to seal gound jar stoppers, now that we cannot use our old supplier anymore the support department ordered the commercial vaseline petroleum jelly like this<<a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.drogisterij.net%2Fverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging-verzorging%2Fcreme%2Fvaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634%3Fpartnercode%3D222%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE&data=02%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7C5a74d3febbfc47b6148408d7bb91d971%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C0%7C637184107404189922&sdata=9A%2Ffxq3zyXCKmyqCjHXaMsIhcEvAqVG3EcsMn2Wd%2FRs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.drogisterij.net%2Fverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging-verzorging%2Fcreme%2Fvaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634%3Fpartnercode%3D222%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE&data=02%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7C5a74d3febbfc47b6148408d7bb91d971%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C0%7C637184107404189922&sdata=9A%2Ffxq3zyXCKmyqCjHXaMsIhcEvAqVG3EcsMn2Wd%2FRs%3D&reserved=0</a>> one. I was wondering if we can use it or that it has additional additives that can effect the balance inside the jar. Is there an acid free or other alternative? Wondering what other people use!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr">Senior Collectiebeheerder<br></div><div dir="ltr">[<a href="https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/logo-new.png" target="_blank">https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/logo-new.png</a>]<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">+31717519313 - -<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>> - www.naturalis.nl<<a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7C5a74d3febbfc47b6148408d7bb91d971%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C0%7C637184107404199919&sdata=%2B6EPabHpuSGivbx6ECWrojBLb3guQ9Oi5Cceu106eHM%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7C5a74d3febbfc47b6148408d7bb91d971%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C0%7C637184107404199919&sdata=%2B6EPabHpuSGivbx6ECWrojBLb3guQ9Oi5Cceu106eHM%3D&reserved=0</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Darwinweg 2, 2333 CR Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr">Postbus 9517, 2300 RA Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">[<a href="https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/schildpad.gif" target="_blank">https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/schildpad.gif</a>]<<a href="https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2Flang-leve&data=02%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7C5a74d3febbfc47b6148408d7bb91d971%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C0%7C637184107404209914&sdata=45hLLKZPbz8Ih2s0uVG9cYgCXPHsFf9kV0K8pYhF4Iw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2Flang-leve&data=02%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7C5a74d3febbfc47b6148408d7bb91d971%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C0%7C637184107404209914&sdata=45hLLKZPbz8Ih2s0uVG9cYgCXPHsFf9kV0K8pYhF4Iw%3D&reserved=0</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.yale.edu/pipermail/nhcoll-l/attachments/20200227/26e900dc/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.yale.edu/pipermail/nhcoll-l/attachments/20200227/26e900dc/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 5<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:07:15 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Lazo-Wasem, Eric" <<a ymailto="mailto:eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu" href="mailto:eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu">eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:BN7PR08MB5074A92F75FAAF71A4CC76FBDAEB0@BN7PR08MB5074.namprd08.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:BN7PR08MB5074A92F75FAAF71A4CC76FBDAEB0@BN7PR08MB5074.namprd08.prod.outlook.com">BN7PR08MB5074A92F75FAAF71A4CC76FBDAEB0@BN7PR08MB5074.namprd08.prod.outlook.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">BTW - If you use vacuum grease (what we have used for 40 years) it can be quite difficult to clean off of the glass surfaces should the need arise. For those times when one wishes to clean the jar completely and reseal, I have found mineral oil is helpful, followed by a scrubbing with "Alconox."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Eric A. Lazo-Wasem, Senior Collections Manager<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Division of Invertebrate Zoology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Peabody Museum of Natural History<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yale University<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">170 Whitney Avenue<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">New Haven, CT 06520<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nhcoll-l <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of Callomon,Paul <<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:47 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Esther Dondorp <<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>>; <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a> <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I use vacuum grease, which is more stable than Vaseline and apparently insoluble in ethanol, water or formaldehyde. Dow-Corning make it.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">PC<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Paul Callomon<br></div><div dir="ltr">Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nhcoll-l <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> On Behalf Of Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:32 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">External.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Just a short question - we always use vaseline to seal gound jar stoppers, now that we cannot use our old supplier anymore the support department ordered the commercial vaseline petroleum jelly like this<<a href="https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.drogisterij.net%2Fverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging-verzorging%2Fcreme%2Fvaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634%3Fpartnercode%3D222%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE&data=02%7C01%7Ceric.lazo-wasem%40yale.edu%7Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637184152457750927&sdata=06C4O4Tx5wzzhuHisssu13B%2B%2BKXc%2Bwcaw279uwj6Qts%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.drogisterij.net%2Fverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging%2Flichaamsverzorging-verzorging%2Fcreme%2Fvaseline-petroleum-jelly-original-42182634%3Fpartnercode%3D222%26gclid%3DEAIaIQobChMIiOnM3_fx5wIVWeN3Ch1X_wOHEAQYASABEgJTI_D_BwE&data=02%7C01%7Ceric.lazo-wasem%40yale.edu%7Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637184152457750927&sdata=06C4O4Tx5wzzhuHisssu13B%2B%2BKXc%2Bwcaw279uwj6Qts%3D&reserved=0</a>> one. I was wondering if we can use it or that it has additional additives that can effect the balance inside the jar. Is there an acid free or other alternative? Wondering what other people use!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Senior Collectiebeheerder<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">[<a href="https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/logo-new.png" target="_blank">https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/logo-new.png</a>]<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">+31717519313 - -<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>> - www.naturalis.nl<<a href="https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ceric.lazo-wasem%40yale.edu%7Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637184152457760923&sdata=%2BaJsYHEYdv9SOATvAAyDEyD9qVCgdeyE8TwDhwicnH8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2F&data=02%7C01%7Ceric.lazo-wasem%40yale.edu%7Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637184152457760923&sdata=%2BaJsYHEYdv9SOATvAAyDEyD9qVCgdeyE8TwDhwicnH8%3D&reserved=0</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Darwinweg 2, 2333 CR Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Postbus 9517, 2300 RA Leiden<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">[<a href="https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/schildpad.gif" target="_blank">https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/schildpad.gif</a>]<<a href="https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2Flang-leve&data=02%7C01%7Ceric.lazo-wasem%40yale.edu%7Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637184152457770918&sdata=1y5iSifFgNWBUgmZKCpYLX%2BkiPm5VNw%2BHPwi7mRGlGU%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.naturalis.nl%2Flang-leve&data=02%7C01%7Ceric.lazo-wasem%40yale.edu%7Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d%7Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c%7C0%7C0%7C637184152457770918&sdata=1y5iSifFgNWBUgmZKCpYLX%2BkiPm5VNw%2BHPwi7mRGlGU%3D&reserved=0</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">-------------- next part --------------<br></div><div dir="ltr">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></div><div dir="ltr">URL: <<a href="http://mailman.yale.edu/pipermail/nhcoll-l/attachments/20200227/0e356149/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank">http://mailman.yale.edu/pipermail/nhcoll-l/attachments/20200227/0e356149/attachment-0001.html</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Message: 6<br></div><div dir="ltr">Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:09:29 +0000<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: "Trimble, Jennifer Winifred" <<a ymailto="mailto:jwtrimble@oeb.harvard.edu" href="mailto:jwtrimble@oeb.harvard.edu">jwtrimble@oeb.harvard.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">To: "Lazo-Wasem, Eric" <<a ymailto="mailto:eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu" href="mailto:eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu">eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu</a>>,<br></div><div dir="ltr"> "<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir="ltr"> <<a ymailto="mailto:BN8PR07MB5858F00AAADED966E94E89B4E8EB0@BN8PR07MB5858.namprd07.prod.outlook.com" href="mailto:BN8PR07MB5858F00AAADED966E94E89B4E8EB0@BN8PR07MB5858.namprd07.prod.outlook.com">BN8PR07MB5858F00AAADED966E94E89B4E8EB0@BN8PR07MB5858.namprd07.prod.outlook.com</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr"> <br></div><div dir="ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">This is what we use too.<br></div><div dir="ltr">Best,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Jennifer<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nhcoll-l <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> On Behalf Of Lazo-Wasem, Eric<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:07 PM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">BTW - If you use vacuum grease (what we have used for 40 years) it can be quite difficult to clean off of the glass surfaces should the need arise. For those times when one wishes to clean the jar completely and reseal, I have found mineral oil is helpful, followed by a scrubbing with "Alconox."<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Eric A. Lazo-Wasem, Senior Collections Manager<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Division of Invertebrate Zoology<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Peabody Museum of Natural History<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Yale University<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">170 Whitney Avenue<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">New Haven, CT 06520<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nhcoll-l <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>> on behalf of Callomon,Paul <<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 10:47 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: Esther Dondorp <<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl" href="mailto:esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl">esther.dondorp@naturalis.nl</a>>>; <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>> <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I use vacuum grease, which is more stable than Vaseline and apparently insoluble in ethanol, water or formaldehyde. Dow-Corning make it.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">PC<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Paul Callomon<br></div><div dir="ltr">Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu">prc44@drexel.edu</a>> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">From: Nhcoll-l <<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>> On Behalf Of Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr">Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:32 AM<br></div><div dir="ltr">To: <a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><mailto:<a ymailto="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br></div><div dir="ltr">Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Question about jar grease in fluid collections<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">External.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Just a short question - we always use vaseline to seal gound jar stoppers, now that we cannot use our old supplier anymore the support department ordered the commercial vaseline petroleum jelly like this<<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.drogisterij.net-252Fverzorging-252Flichaamsverzorging-252Flichaamsverzorging-2Dverzorging-252Fcreme-252Fvaseline-2Dpetroleum-2Djelly-2Doriginal-2D42182634-253Fpartnercode-253D222-2526gclid-253DEAIaIQobChMIiOnM3-5Ffx5wIVWeN3Ch1X-5FwOHEAQYASABEgJTI-5FD-5FBwE-26data-3D02-257C01-257Ceric.lazo-2Dwasem-2540yale.edu-257Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d-257Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c-257C0-257C0-257C637184152457750927-26sdata-3D06C4O4Tx5wzzhuHisssu13B-252B-252BKXc-252Bwcaw279uwj6Qts-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=NFkXm5rU8D1yKtGhU6p549OkNixrA966AjbwYMN3-Uo&m=W5TG-saNh1l_NR3htfLPKC8lbKX0ovNqKm4jf9VaY9g&s=TkwGUS8nRONwlfj1gXaHg1ROJm5qXbQpBKg" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.drogisterij.net-252Fverzorging-252Flichaamsverzorging-252Flichaamsverzorging-2Dverzorging-252Fcreme-252Fvaseline-2Dpetroleum-2Djelly-2Doriginal-2D42182634-253Fpartnercode-253D222-2526gclid-253DEAIaIQobChMIiOnM3-5Ffx5wIVWeN3Ch1X-5FwOHEAQYASABEgJTI-5FD-5FBwE-26data-3D02-257C01-257Ceric.lazo-2Dwasem-2540yale.edu-257Ccedc46695e7049889cbb08d7bb9c567d-257Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c-257C0-257C0-257C637184152457750927-26sdata-3D06C4O4Tx5wzzhuHisssu13B-252B-252BKXc-252Bwcaw279uwj6Qts-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFAw&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=NFkXm5rU8D1yKtGhU6p549OkNixrA966AjbwYMN3-Uo&m=W5TG-saNh1l_NR3htfLPKC8lbKX0ovNqKm4jf9VaY9g&s=TkwGUS8nRONwlfj1gXaHg1ROJm5qXbQpBKg</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"> -ANFbwDA&e=> one. I was wondering if we can use it or that it has additional additives that can effect the balance inside the jar. Is there an acid free or other alternative? Wondering what other people use!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Many thanks,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Esther Dondorp<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Senior Collectiebeheerder<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">[<a href="https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/logo-new.png" target="_blank">https://06ecba7b-a-deac235a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/a/naturalis.nl/signatures/home/logo-new.png</a>]<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">+31717519313 - -<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a 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