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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Ariel,</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">concur with Rob; closed metal cabinets
      (compared to wooden ones - with different pros and cons) are
      perfect to trap and maintain unsuited microclimates. Damp material
      definitely is a source, unwanted RH and temperature fluctuations
      as they may occur in a new storage building during calibration of
      the new climate control systems could have been another potential
      source. Also any form of moisture released from the new building
      itself (e.g. from the concrete, walls, paint, etc.).</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">With best wishes</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk  <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.09.2020 um 23:16 schrieb Robert
      Waller:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Hi Ariel,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">It seems extraordinary
            to have mold growth at the conditions you mention (</span><span
            style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">40-42%RH
            and 64-68°F).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">Can
            you be certain that wet or damp materials have not been
            placed within the cabinets? In my experience a small amount
            of damp material in a metal cabinet can raise the RH to 100%
            for days to weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a> <b>
              On Behalf Of </b>ELLEN PEARLSTEIN<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2020 4:29 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Gaffney, Ariel M <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ariel_gaffney@fws.gov"><ariel_gaffney@fws.gov></a><br>
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            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Mold in our bird collection<o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Please
                do not irradiate these collections with UV, which will
                destroy the keratin! Also, ammonia or any high pH
                solution can displace and destroy biopigments. Often for
                major outbreaks, a fume cupboard can be created or
                rented, and collections should be vacuumed with a HEPA
                vacuum and swabbed with isopropanol. Operators should be
                using PPE. Collections should be returned to a dry
                climate (RH at 40% +/- 5) onto shelves that have been
                disinfected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Ellen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Ellen Pearlstein</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Professor</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">UCLA Information Studies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">230 GSEIS</span><span
style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">UCLA/Getty Program in the
                                                      Conservation of
                                                      Archaeological and
                                                      Ethnographic
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style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">A 410 Fowler</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Los Angeles, CA 90095</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                                style="font-family:"Georgia",serif"><a
href="mailto:epearl@ucla.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">epearl@ucla.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Editor,
                                              Conservation of
                                              featherwork from Central
                                              and South America</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">PI,
                                              Andrew W. Mellon
                                              Opportunity for Diversity
                                              in Conservation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                              style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">As
                                              a land grant institution,
                                              the faculty and
                                              administration at UCLA
                                              acknowledges the
                                              Gabrielino/Tongva peoples
                                              as the traditional land
                                              caretakers of Tovaangar
                                              (Los Angeles basin, So.
                                              Channel Islands).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 1:10 PM
              Gaffney, Ariel M <<a
                href="mailto:ariel_gaffney@fws.gov"
                moz-do-not-send="true">ariel_gaffney@fws.gov</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">Our collection
                    here at the National Fish & Wildlife Forensic
                    Laboratory is experiencing an unprecedented mold
                    outbreak in our bird collection and we could use
                    some advice about mold removal and cleaning while
                    protecting the specimens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">A few weeks
                    ago we found two cabinets with mold growth, some
                    skins were nearly encased in a thin mold film. The
                    specimens with obvious mold growth were moved to the
                    freezer, then cleaned with a cotton swab dipped in
                    ammonia. All other specimens were placed in a hood
                    with a UV light for 24 hours. The drawers were
                    cleaned with ammonia and then a UV light was placed
                    inside the cabinet for 24 hours. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">We have now
                    discovered more cabinets with mold. Has anyone
                    encountered large-scale mold outbreak in their
                    collection? How did you handle cleaning?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">From what I've
                    read, UV light exposure will kill the mold and won't
                    necessarily harm the specimens unless exposed to UV
                    light for an extensive period of time. <br>
                    Is ammonia the best way of cleaning
                    specimens? Should we be using Ethanol or another
                    solution for the specimens with visible mold
                    growth? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">How would you
                    wipe down/rid the bird skins of mold growing on
                    them? Damp rag with ethanol? Cotton swabs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">This is a
                    brand new facility built in the last year. The
                    humidity in the building ranges from 40-42% and the
                    temperature is kept from 64-68 F. We put in
                    dehumidifiers this week to try and drop the humidity
                    even further and are considering an anti-fungal
                    fogger. If anyone has had experience with any of
                    these foggers, we'd appreciate your insight. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">Any/all advice
                    would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p style="background:white;box-sizing:border-box"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#353C41">Ariel Gaffney<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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