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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Agreeing with Erik I would say that some way should be found to make the ‘disclaimer’ he mentions, so that it becomes
clear to the public that all this stuff is not a handbook or <b>The Answer</b>, but rather a place where you can find good input. Erik’s example about bird names is one that I recognize from other animals. I can google some obscure name combination from a
label and often find that somebody actually used it, maybe 150 years ago, and from that via some further detective work find my way to what it really is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It might help people, if if was possible for specialists to annotate the digitized images with what they consider more
correct identifications or current name combinations. That way the system will work much like our physical collections. And it ought to be possible to link to one or more of the large net databases, Catalogue of Life or whatever, and use that as backbone for
the taxonomy, while still retaining the old, and useful, synonyms as such.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tom Schiøtte</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Erik Åhlander<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22. september 2020 10:58<br>
<b>To:</b> Douglas Yanega <dyanega@gmail.com>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Passenger Pigeon Manifesto<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You are all way correct on this, but the same is true (at least in part) for the museum collections data available on
internet. Museum people are aware of this (I hope), but the user outside the museum world, grab the species identifications as some sort of truth. The problem is not to make pictures or museum data available. The problems are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There is usually no disclaimer telling what actually an identification really means.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There are not enough taxonomists in the world. (It should be attractive and well paid etc.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Those taxonomists should produce research and curate collections, there is so much else they have to do.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Another aspect. When I am cleaning up in a collection of a group which I am not familiar with (presently birds) I am so
happy when I can google on a bird name no longer in use and at least find a picture which give a hint on what kind of bird am I looking for!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">Erik Åhlander<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">vertebrate zoology and museum history<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">Swedish Museum of Natural History<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:erik.ahlander@nrm.se"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif">erik.ahlander@nrm.se</span></a><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Från:</span></b><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <</span><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>
<b>För </b>Douglas Yanega<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 22 september 2020 02:26<br>
<b>Till:</b> </span><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span lang="SV" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
<b>Ämne:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Passenger Pigeon Manifesto<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="SV">On 9/21/20 8:55 AM, Adam Harangozó wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="SV">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="SV">I would like to share news about a publication that just came out and is very relevant to natural history and heritage:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="SV">"Signed by a large number of professionals, the Passenger Pigeon Manifesto is a call to public galleries, libraries, archives, and museums to liberate cultural heritage
that has already been digitised."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="SV">The Manifesto:
</span><a href="https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furl11.mailanyone.net%2Fv1%2F%3Fm%3D1kKWGn-0005kV-4y%26i%3D57e1b682%26c%3DZFY52ozqYuWCEYUQi0075yNR5sJXJC_FUtp-ZGKIqYt4goTnWVxZey0NleUBW8LPrltv0s8EpS1tTRZR2tGlH83SEZkJnL7ZZHhAWr-tGjAoKF7u2bVdZlq9uw-4lWDFH6A_IfO7jUmnh2JYqWbWi9vGTsVuXLOoTdcESxoN_8G7PGsYEHs0BEuHFswXm717vKH27CK1sUMVv47lcs47A5MSfBUVTYq3kOYVMnawTEfXKUrGNIeHvUe9KCArn0KbUWhy_4nd6mye_wILRGVo8-SW9FMymRiXTsZqwl-GXlQrMq4CRVDJSYdqwoSx55HNXi5OSSjXchuA1bATcMFk-dq2hEovhrJzeA71NEnY-pQ5EeuTW_tTIXihQyyPwDs5SYIR954Ixq-s3-GvruzI5REGvk_eZQQdKxf3TcbdehJacNcvOCWx0CTbMtgD92zu4Yenrm-F7cjDi1yQHGUBQvIPqC9nEVsnv2-UxTlaFtkm0Wofwd7gpaB4PKIZOF1v4_H4QlUR4H7UB9y0AmriuXe3SnCvJBuFzcBE6AFDxJOtBUNCLnadnBe6O3UKc1Cu&data=02%7C01%7CTSchioette%40snm.ku.dk%7C46240dd011464e11caad08d85ed5b11a%7Ca3927f91cda14696af898c9f1ceffa91%7C0%7C0%7C637363619200301650&sdata=UePFBXk2ufklv9Br%2FelW%2FRbHEeZuJ5tcOzXdu4LSGBQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span lang="SV">http://ppmanifesto.hcommons.org</span></a><span lang="SV">
It was published by multiple platforms online and will appear in print publications too.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="SV">Please do share it with others and consider acting on the call. Twitter posts for sharing are available here:
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<p><span lang="SV">There is a fairly significant problem with one of the suggestions included in this ambitious and otherwise carefully-thought-out document, at least insofar as images that link to taxonomy:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">The closing section suggests to make use of the Wikimedia Commons (WC) as a source for "liberated" digital images. While on the surface this is a good idea, the problematic aspect is that a fairly substantial portion of the images presently
archived in WC fall into two categories that greatly undermine their utility - (1)
<b>many</b> are from outdated sources, using scientific names linked to the original image sources but that are no longer valid, resulting in inappropriate placement in the WC hierarchy, and (2)
<b>many</b> are misidentified, using scientific names that do not apply at all to the species in the image. On top of which, (3)
<b>many</b> of the taxonomic hierarchies appearing in WC are themselves outdated, using family names or other higher taxonomic ranks that are obsolete or configured differently than what appears in WC. Case in point: the passenger pigeon louse (Columbicola
extinctus) is presently classified in the Order Phthiraptera, in the Superorder Psocodea; in WC, however, Psocodea is incorrectly listed as an Order, and Phthiraptera is not one of its constituents. People using WC as a source of taxonomic data are often being
given outdated and erroneous results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">Adding more images from more sources will only increase the number of contributed images falling into these undesirable categories,
<b>unless</b> a substantial effort is undertaken to employ qualified taxonomic experts who can act as "digital curators" and address the presently chaotic misplacement, misidentification, and misclassification issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">Adam: with all due respect, I would urge you to bring my comments to the attention of the other co-signatories of this document, with consideration as to editing the proposal to account for the explicit need to employ taxonomic expertise
to assist the endeavor. Images that <b>are not what they claim to be</b> are a form of misinformation, and making them available
<b>without quality control</b> does not advance the community's aims.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="SV">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang="SV">-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="SV">Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology Entomology Research Museum<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="SV">Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314 skype: dyanega<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="SV">phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><span lang="SV"> "There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="SV"> is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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