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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Paul,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">interesting observations! Do you know
further details on the make-up of the F217 liners? Read this
morning that they have an upper and lower PE-layer that shields
the foam structure in between. Maybe that's why they remain rather
stable?</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Metal lids: around the 1990ies some
also used PE-foil as self-made inlay (often recycled from bags
used to ship specimens), saw this in some collections, inherited
this here, too. My observation is that moisture gets trapped
between inlay & metal lids which seems to accelerate
deterioration of metal lids (e.g. pinpoint rusting or rust that
starts blooming along the inner liner. Without this, they metal
lids can perform quite well (> 30 years in our collection), if
they fail, they are easy to replace (standardised sizes, I lids
costs less then 5 cent).</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">All the best</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.11.2020 um 14:00 schrieb
Callomon,Paul:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">We
recently overhauled our 50,000-jar alcohol collection for
the first time in 50 years. We found the following things
for lids on screw-top jars:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Steel lids are
problematic. Ours were painted black on the outside and
cadmium-plated inside with solid plastic seals. The seals
had almost all held, but the lids themselves had pinpoint
rusting from the inside due to condensation. If those
pinpoints get through the metal, the lid is more likely to
fail. We’ve replaced them all.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA">PPE lids with either solid
PPE disks or F217 liners are both fine. We started using
them in the 1980s (PPE disks) and 1990s (F217) and both
have lasted well, with a failure rate below 1%<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Phenolic lids with
coneseal liners – very good. Bakelite and phenolic lids
with food-grade-paper (coated or foil-laminated card)
liners – high failure rate. We replaced them all.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Note that there is a
difference between pure phenolic resin and Bakelite. The
latter has wood dust mixed with the resin, and always
fails over time, often suddenly and completely. You can
usually tell the difference by the gloss, color and size;
Bakelite is not as black or as glossy as phenolic. If it’s
over 50 mm in diameter it’s likely to be Bakelite.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:JA">However, as Dirk points
out, although phenolic resin is fine with ethanol it can
be affected by formaldehyde. We have also found that
phenolic will leach dark color into alcohol if it is
immersed for more than a year, so it’s clearly not
entirely stable to ethanol either.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Finally,
though they are not available in small sizes the most stable
and economical jars in our collection are bale jars with
galvanized steel bale clips and either natural rubber, butyl
or neoprene gaskets (e. g. “Ball”-brand jars). These
effectively never fail. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Neisskenwirth, Fabian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 20, 2020 4:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">neumann@snsb.de</a>' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de"><neumann@snsb.de></a>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Jar liners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">Hey there,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">I totally agree with Dirks
statement. Glass lids are much more stable than any other
kind of material used in fluid collections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">I would like to share my experience
with a sort of new jar type from Duran® (former Schott).
They have a product line called “GLS 80” jars. It has a
mouth opening of 80 mm, but the size varies from 500ml to
25000 ml. The mouth opening works very well for smaller
specimens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">The jars are made of borosilicate
and sold at an affordable price, because they are made for
the pharma industry. This is why they also have “filling
marks”, which esthetically speaking is not so nice, but it
still fulfills the purpose of the jar. One of the sales
agents of DWK (Duran Group), offered me that at a certain
amount of jars, there could be a batch (around 1000 jars)
made without “filling marks”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">There is a new type of lid for this
jars too, made of Polysulfone (PSU) with a PTFE coated
silicone liner.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">The Duran Group works worldwide, so
if you have any questions regarding this contact Eric
Lehnen (<a href="mailto:eric.lehnen@dwk.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">eric.lehnen@dwk.com</a>). He
knows about the use of the jars for collections purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">This seems to be a very good
improvement to move away from poor quality “sausage jars”
with fast degrading lids.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">I have made a one year aging test
with three jars with ethanol 70% mixed with a buffered
formaldehyde solution 3,4% (9:1) and have seen no negative
reactions on the lids. But this still should be tested
more thoroughly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="color:#1F497D">Hope this helps you out!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE"> Nhcoll-l [<a
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<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 20. November 2020 09:10<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Jar liners<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE">Hi Tonya & Lennart,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">I guess there are
several layers to unfold here:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">Foamed liners -
like the F217 liners you mention - consist of a foamed
cell structure which - if the lid is screwed down tight -
is compressed again the neck of the jar. This outs the
cells under pressure and closed cells would withstand this
tension better then open cell structures. It is hard to
tell if the F217 liners you mention has open or closed
cells, which gas is used for filling of the foam
structure, etc. Even if the F217 liners would have the
right composition, right thickness, closed cells - it
still a is compressible gasket which has a limited life
span.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">To produce a good
closure, you would further need to consider the threads on
the jar (continuous or not), the composition of the lid
itself (the best liner does not help if the plastic used
for the lid itself is of poor quality, etc. Most important
seems to me that sizes of such lids are standardised
(rather then customised for specific jars), so that they
can easily be replaced if they fail. This is one of the
huge problems many collections with Copehagen jars now
face after plastic lids reached the end of their life
span, sized where customised, company went out of
production: it is virtually impossible to replace these
lids - which causes huge problems in many collections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">It seems that F217
and PTFE liners are often used as inlays for Phenolic caps
(Bakelite) - which is a no-go in fluid collections because
this sort of thermoset plastics is easily degraded by
residual formaldehyde escaping from formaldehyde preserved
specimens, even if they have been transferred in to
alcohol. As said: the best liner is worthless if the
plastic lid itself is unsuited.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">In general,
plastic lids are not a good oxygen barrier - this is also
worth remembering, especially if specimens inside such
jars release a lot of fats or oils.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">Rather then
concentrating on specific lids I would look into jars that
are designed for the pharmaceutical sector. Here, both the
jar (soda-lime glass) and the lid are expected (and
usually tested) to withstand a wide range of chemicals AND
to provide a good barrier against oxygen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">There are
different suppliers of such jars, the disadvantage of the
wide mouth jars however is that the largest opening in
these jars is 65 mm. So a good option for for 100 - 1000
ml jars, but not for larger jars. Stölzle (who also
produce high quality borosilicate stoppered jars) is a
possible source for such jars, but there are many others
as well:
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https://pharma.stoelzle.com/en/product_category/weithalsglaser/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">So as mostly no
clear cut answer, but hopefully one that is useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">All the best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE">Dirk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE">Am 20.11.2020 um 00:29 schrieb Haff, Tonya
(NCMI, Crace):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE">I know I’ve asked about this before, but may I
please clarify again…. Does anyone have preference
regarding PTFE (e.g. Teflon, I believe) lid liners vs
F217 liners, which are layered polyethylene (as far as I
understand). Can anyone give me advice as to what would
be better as a lid liner for specimens kept in 70-90%
EtOH? Advice very appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
lang="DE">Tonya<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU" lang="DE">Dr Tonya
Haff</span><span lang="DE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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