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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Lennart,</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">definitely support Paul's cautionary
      remarks; we currently have professional humidifiers/dehumidifiers
      installed in our collection space. The units  are roughly 1 m high
      and 60 wide and deep. As massive as the machine is the fan that
      propels the air - leading to increased evaporation on surrounding
      shelves. Even this professional device needs close monitoring to
      prevent spillages in the collection space from the tank that
      collects the removed water. Definitely can confirm the cooling
      effect Paul mentioned, even though this device is equipped with a
      heating element that should keep temperatures constant - while
      "[electric] heating" surely is another element on the list of
      undesired things you want to avoid in your fluid storage: a huge
      potential ignition source in the middle of your alcohol
      collection.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">My advice would be to keep the
      situation as stable as possible. An interesting anecdote we found
      during the research on our upcoming book on best practices for
      fluid collections was a collection that had a minor humidity
      issues because the floor in the storage space was wiped wet
      regularly at least twice a week. Actually it was mildly flooded
      twice a week evenly several millimetres high. The Advantage was
      that the storage space was basically dust free, the disadvantage
      that the concrete flooring saturated with water triggering a mould
      outbreak because of high humidity inside the storage space.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">To mitigate your situation you could
      carefully try to wipe the isles in a selected storage room with
      little water evenly and monitor closely how the humidity levels
      behave. This is the only method to my mind where you can exactly
      determine and measure the amount of water you bring actively under
      controlled conditions into your storage space (with the hopefully
      desired effects on the room climate). But less surely is more
      here, and if you have wooden collection furniture in your storage,
      you should take great care. </div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hope this helps</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.12.2020 um 16:45 schrieb
      Callomon,Paul:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Dear
            Lennart,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA">Safely
            adding humidity to a collection space is hard and always
            expensive. The problem if you use a humidifier (such as the
            home ones you mention) is that there will be a gradient of
            humidity around it – damp enough to create mold near the
            machine but still dry at the far end of the room. If you
            have multi-outlet ducting for your building climate system,
            then, at least try and rig something up that uses that
            ducting to distribute the moisture as evenly as possible.
            Otherwise, you could set up a system of fans to create air
            circulation throughout the space and try to even out the
            humidity that way – but be aware that doing that could then
            drop the temperature through the evaporative cooling effect,
            causing folks to turn up the heating and make the problem
            worse.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA">Paul
              Callomon MSc</span></b><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA"><br>
            <i>Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates</i></span><span
            style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA">Academy
              of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
            style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA">1900
            Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br>
            <i><a href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">prc44@drexel.edu</a>
              Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170</i></span><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:JA"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                  style="mso-fareast-language:JA">From:</span></b><span
                style="mso-fareast-language:JA"> Nhcoll-l
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lennart Lennuk<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 7, 2020 10:16 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Alternatives for room climate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black" lang="ET">Dear curators,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black" lang="ET"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black" lang="ET">We have broken climate
              system in our collections room and the main problem is too
              low humidity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black" lang="ET">What would you suggest for
              quick alternative for rising the humidity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black" lang="ET">Are the ordinary humidifiers
              (meant for homes or Office) ok to use?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black" lang="ET"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
              style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET" lang="ET">Head!<br>
              Lennart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span lang="ET"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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