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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle24">Dirk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="EmailStyle24">This printing SYSTEM (thermal transfer) is fairly ubiquitously available and there are a large number of printers and manufacturers that produce compatible printers. This printing system is used by a large number
of communities and commercial entities (airline industry for example) which negates the chances that it will become obsolete any time soon. It is the media and ribbon combination that is the critical element here. Again, the SDR ribbon that is chemical resistant
is also ubiquitously available from multiple manufacturers. However, the spun-bound polyester media currently in use by many collections and supplied by Alpha Systems is fairly proprietary and is the limiting factor here. Alpha Systems has been naturally
very cagey about the exact makeup of the media so as to corner the market, but a large number of collections are successfully using this system in their collections and it not outside the realm of possibility that we could find another supplier or suppliers
of the media to alleviate this problem if we really tried.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Andy Bentley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Dirk Neumann <neumann@snsb.de><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"neumann@snsb.de" <neumann@snsb.de><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 4:02 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] [EXT]Re: Datamax end of life<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Jean-Marc and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">one of the key challenges we all have to face (and to some extent have to endure) is that technological advance is an important economic driving factor. The degree of sophistication usually increases the exclusiveness (and often price)
and limits or decreases the number of possible alternatives. Sadly the rate of 'advance' steadily accelerates, and finding alternatives that meet same standards and quality becomes increasingly difficult or - at some point - impossible.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Without becoming too philosophical, they key question seems to be how reliant a collection wants to be on (just) one printing system. Even reliable dinosaurs (like good old HP 600 monochrome printers) will die out, if production of cartridges
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thus it might be worth to use two entirely independent labelling systems (e.g. like in Paris or Brussels), not only to increase independence, but also to be able to verify efficiency and reliability of possible new alternatives in parallel
with existing systems. If I remember correctly, that was one of the key recommendations during the Labelling workshop at the SPNHC conference in Leiden back in 2009.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This could include pre-printing of just continuous inventory numbers with currently used reliable labelling/printing systems if severe challenges can be expected, e.g. because printers or consumables are phased out. In this case if ribbons
of labels produced with the new printer would detach, the inventory number printed with the old Datamax printer would still be in place.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just a thought ... as we all know, current 'satisfaction' can develop into a formidable nightmare in short time ;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the best<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 26.01.2021 um 21:27 schrieb Jean-Marc Gagnon:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">David’s question is very relevant, with constantly changing market and the lifespan of a printer model.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Like many, we’ve relied on the Datamax Mark II for our recent labelling needs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Unfortunately, when we purchased 2 of those printers, one turned out to be a lemon and was never properly serviced by the provider in Canada.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">This was probably (I’d like to believe) the exception in the lot, but still an expensive experience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As a result, when I had the funds to purchase another printer, I went for a Zebra Printer, available from a well-known distributor.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I felt that for the significant difference in price (in Canada), it was worth trying something different:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">ZEBRA ZT410 DIRECT THERMAL/THERMAL TRANSFER PRINTER - 600 DPI (H-5150; it is similar to the aforementioned Datamax).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">But now, it is replaced by the much more expensive ZEBRA ZT610 600 DPI.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">You’ll have to compare price and functionality between these Datamax and Zebra printers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Once we figured out the optimal printing setup and the fact that the rolls of ribbon and label material (from Alpha Systems) need to be wound in the correct direction (ribbon not the same as for Datamax; e.g.,
Part # 296833 4.33" x 1476' SDR5+ CSO Resin Ribbon for Zebra), we were and are still very satisfied with the Zebra.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So there are options available.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joe Panella<br>
<b>Sent:</b> January 26, 2021 10:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bentley, Andrew Charles <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu"><abentley@ku.edu></a>; David Boyd
<a href="mailto:dboyd10@lsu.edu"><dboyd10@lsu.edu></a>; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">
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<b>Subject:</b> [EXT]Re: [Nhcoll-l] Datamax end of life<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I’ve been mentioning this to each of the sites as they call. I also have a replacement ready.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> David Boyd <<a href="mailto:dboyd10@lsu.edu">dboyd10@lsu.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Datamax end of life<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I just spoke with a representative from Honeywell and it appears that it is only the I-Class Mark I printer that is scheduled to be discontinued -
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, it appears, crisis averted. I have copied Joe from Alpha Systems so he is aware.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of David Boyd <<a href="mailto:dboyd10@lsu.edu">dboyd10@lsu.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 8:54 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Nhcoll-l] Datamax end of life</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Greetings, thermal transfer afficionados,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While shopping for a new printer, I was told by a representative at Alpha Systems that Honeywell will discontinue production of the popular I-class Datamax series at the end of this year. Support will continue for 5 years. Has anyone had
good or bad experiences they could share with the CAB Squix (recommended by Alpha Systems) or Zebra brand printers?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dave<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">David A. Boyd</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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