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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Alex and all,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">maybe few cautionary remarks, even
though I understand (and share) the huge opportunities digital
specimens have and enthusiasm in this discussion.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">'Digital specimens' - irrespective how
they are finally defined - increase the visibility of these
specimens, and the collections. Not only for researchers (our key
audience), but also for others. We know, and the European
Commission is very clear on this, that from a Nagoya /
ABS-legislation perspective, such data on specimens is used for
compliance check on ABS. Therefore, such systems will permit
increased checks by national authorities on the use of specimens,
as revealed by the data that can be retrieved. These include
domestic compliance – in some EU Member States, for the risk-based
compliance checks of national authorities, databases have been set
up that screen for “uses” and “utilisation” of specimens in the
sense of the NP – and provider countries – again, some have set up
scanning systems to detect whether genetic resources are being
used as authorised in permits. Increased visibility will increase
the pressure on the compliance side for institutions ‘Powered by
DOI’ (e.g. for CETAF members). <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Speaking as co-chair of the respective
Legislations & Regulations working groups of SPHNC and CETAF,
we are not sure if currently all are aware and have the capacity
to cope with this kind of increased ‘impact on research’ the
system offers (to all users), especially as many collection
holding institutions seem not to be fully prepared to manage
associated legal risks, increased availability of information and
visibility of specimens introduce.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For example, we see in some ABS
contracts with certain Providing Countries that these require
'authorisation' before publication of data through national
authorities or ministries, especially if "digital specimens"
include 'Digital Sequence Information'. A condition that is often
overlooked by respective researchers and caused some troubles with
'publication' lately. This raises the question how contractual
information and obligations are and can be linked with 'digital
specimens'.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">For an “open Digital Specimen” the
steps to determine whether a specimen is open (or not) prior to
publication needs consideration. Under ABS conditions and
especially in the light of the current controversial discussion on
Digital Sequence Information (DSI) (cf. scoping study on the
potential of a Global Multilateral Benefit Sharing Mechanisms ),
some stakeholders and Providing Countries have a keen interest in
governing conditions and uses of specimens stored outside their
jurisdiction e.g. in Natural History Collections in the northern
hemisphere. Specimen data of two major CETAF members (Kew &
MNHN) have recently been cited in a CBD report as examples
demonstrating the need to apply pre-CBD responsibilities for the
collection holding institutions. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This issue is not academic. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Without doubt, data on digital
specimens, e.g. available via platforms like GBIF or BOLD, will be
key not only but especially for many of the monitoring elements
under the post-2020 Global Biodiversity Framework. This surely is
the one opportunity to boost collection, as they set the baselines
with their specimen data for many if not most of these parameters.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">However, prior to the release of such
data, associated conditions for such specimens must be checked
through the platform. If the responsibility for the creation of an
(open) Digital Specimen – and thus the correct setting of
parameters – is with the respective scientists, a mechanism for
handling submissions must be flexible enough to avoid damage for
the respective collection holding institutions.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">All the best</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 22.01.2021 um 11:26 schrieb Alex
Hardisty:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Andy,
Derek </span>
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI
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style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks
Mike for your remarks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">On
the ‘twin’ remark, DiSSCo has used various terms at moments
in the past 3 years and digital twin is the present one. My
personal preference is to express as follows: ‘<i>A Digital
Specimen is a digital representation on the Internet (a
surrogate) corresponding to an </i></span><i>identifiable
physical specimen in a natural science collection.</i>’ – a
‘Specimen on the Internet’ if you will.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The current use of the term by DiSSCo
‘twin’ reflects two aspects. One is a political dimension
among the policy and workprogramme statements of the European
Commission as the EC finalises and enters into the next 7-year
framework programme for research, ‘Horizon Europe’. Here among
the funding instruments and desired work focuses, the idea of
digital twins is prominent in the ICT domain. The other aspect
relates to the fact that we can foresee entirely different
kinds of usages of physical specimens and digital specimen
data in the future. There are kinds of work that can only be
done based on the physical specimen, such as analysing it’s
chemistry. It is clear that in the future there will be
entirely new kinds of work that can’t be done on physical
specimens but which rely on the availability in digital form
of data derived from and related to physical specimens – data
science. To extend Derek’s reference to his offspring, the
twin is not identical and it can have a different job to that
of its sibling. Extended/extendable Digital Specimen digital
objects are a new abstraction and this is what the
consultation is principally concerned with.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On persistent identifiers, these are not
specifically a topic of the first round of consultation. It is
planned to include discourse about a persistent identification
scheme for Digital Specimens (DS) in a subsequent round
planned for late Spring. To be clear again, we are talking
here only about persistent identification of Digital Specimen
digital objects and nothing else. We are not proposing to
alter or replace any scheme of identification (persistent or
not) presently in use for physical objects. PIDs for DS will
sit alongside identifiers of anything else and have their own
role to play.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In the present decade, enabled by the
Internet we will enter a new era of what it means to work with
specimens. DiSSCo and BCoN are at the forefront of thinking
about that. The global team behind the coming consultation
wants to consult as widely as possible, taking all views into
account to build common understanding and direction of that
future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alex<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Alex
Hardisty
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Bentley, Andrew Charles
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu"><abentley@ku.edu></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> 21 January 2021 20:58<br>
<b>To:</b> Derek Sikes <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dssikes@alaska.edu"><dssikes@alaska.edu></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Howe, Michael P.A. <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mhowe@bgs.ac.uk"><mhowe@bgs.ac.uk></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>; Alex Hardisty
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:HardistyAR@cardiff.ac.uk"><HardistyAR@cardiff.ac.uk></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Converging Digital and
Extended Specimens: An observation on nomenclature<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_GoBack" moz-do-not-send="true"></a><span
lang="EN-US">Agreed. However, the point here is that if
you had a photo/x-ray, CT scan and vital staistics of one
of your twins, you couldn’t actually get rid of the child
right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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V V<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Andy Bentley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Derek Sikes <</span><a
href="mailto:dssikes@alaska.edu" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">dssikes@alaska.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Andrew Bentley <</span><a
href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">abentley@ku.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Howe, Michael P.A." <</span><a
href="mailto:mhowe@bgs.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">mhowe@bgs.ac.uk</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">>,
"</span><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">" <</span><a
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">>,
Alex Hardisty <</span><a
href="mailto:HardistyAR@cardiff.ac.uk"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"
lang="EN-US">HardistyAR@cardiff.ac.uk</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Converging Digital and
Extended Specimens: An observation on nomenclature<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I'll just chime in
here, as a father of identical twins, that anyone who
thinks the word twin means 100% identical is
incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">-Derek<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On Thu, Jan 21,
2021 at 9:18 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <</span><a
href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US">abentley@ku.edu</span></a><span
lang="EN-US">> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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name="m_4337678715754977047__GoBack"
moz-do-not-send="true"></a><span lang="EN-US">Hi
Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">I agree on both counts and have
indicated as much to the DiSCCCo folks. I too was
worried that the word “twin” would and could be
misconstrued and that the vast amount of
additional information provided by the specimen
itself would be lost or ignored. We have
struggled in the past with views that once a
specimen is digitized that the specimen can be
discarded, and I worry that this terminology
simply reinforces that obviously incorrect
connotation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">I also agree that the coining of a
new term for persistent identifiers simply muddies
the water even further – unless there is something
unique about PIDs that is not already conveyed by
existing identifiers – which I am not sure there
is. Our community has struggled with a
proliferation of unique identifier systems and no
coalescence around a single system that works for
everyone. Adding another one to the mix I fear
will not solve the problem but rather exacerbate
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">These are both great discussion
threads that I think should be mentioned during
the consultation coming up. I have copied Alex
Hardisty who is more involved in the DiSCCCo
process that developed both of these terms and may
have more insights.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-US">Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°></span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Andy Bentley</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Ichthyology
Collection Manager</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">University of
Kansas</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Biodiversity
Institute</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Dyche Hall</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">1345 Jayhawk
Boulevard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Lawrence, KS,
66045-7561</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">USA</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Tel: (785)
864-3863</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Fax: (785)
864-5335 </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Email: </span><a
href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span lang="EN-US">abentley@ku.edu</span></a><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu%2F&data=04%7C01%7CHardistyAR%40cardiff.ac.uk%7Cb68b30d73b974f92850908d8be4f33f9%7Cbdb74b3095684856bdbf06759778fcbc%7C1%7C0%7C637468595607119695%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=x99RzlHzhG8EOAIDlh69YBRckE25CRu%2F4ppyH1vqXxw%3D&reserved=0"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</span></a><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> A
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style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°></span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">"Howe, Michael P.A." <</span><a
href="mailto:mhowe@bgs.ac.uk" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">mhowe@bgs.ac.uk</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, January 21, 2021 at
12:09 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Andrew Bentley <</span><a
href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">abentley@ku.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">>, "</span><a
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">" <</span><a
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Converging Digital and Extended
Specimens: An observation on nomenclature</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Dear All,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">As the exciting work that many of
us have been engaged in for the past 10 - 20
years, to digitze our collections and thereby
make them more accessible, grows in support,
complexity and achievement, I wish to offer a
warning and a comment.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I believe the term "digital twin"
should be avoided and replaced by "digital
proxy", "digital surrogate" or just "digital
specimen". The word twin implies that the
digital specimen is absolutely identical to the
physical specimen, which it is clearly not. The
physical specimen can subjected to new forms of
physical analysis and at greater resolutions, in
a way that a digital surrogate cannot. Also, the
cynic in me knows that before long, a hard
pressed administrator will argue that if we have
the digital twin we don't need the physical
twin.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">I am also concerned with the use of
the term PID - persistent identifiers.
Collections have been using persistent
identifiers - unique registration numbers - for
over two hundred years (and the British
Geological Survey since 1849). Actionable or
executable persistent identifiers are a vital
tool for linking to objects, but are a very
much newer concept. It seems disingenuous of
data scientists not to acknowledge two centuries
of good practice (and all the hard work of
curators and registrars) and instead use an
acronym such as EPID or APID?</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Any thoughts?</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Thanks,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Mike Howe</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Chief Curator, British Geological
Survey</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> Nhcoll-l
<</span><a
href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">> on
behalf of Bentley, Andrew Charles <</span><a
href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span lang="EN-US">abentley@ku.edu</span></a><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 January 2021 16:09<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <</span><a
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Consultation on
Converging Digital and Extended Specimens:
Towards a global specification for data
integration</span><span lang="EN-US">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"><a
name="m_4337678715754977047_x__GoBack"
moz-do-not-send="true"></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Dear all,</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"
style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"
style="font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">
<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Over the past year several
exciting conversations about the
possibilities of digital representations of
the billions of specimens currently held in
the world’s natural history collections. Two
concepts—the
</span><a
href="https://dissco.tech/2020/03/31/what-is-a-digital-specimen/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#F15A29;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Digital
Specimen</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> proposed by the </span><a
href="https://www.dissco.eu/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#F15A29;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Distributed
System of Scientific Collections</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> (DiSSCo) in Europe and the </span><a
href="https://www.idigbio.org/sites/default/files/sites/default/files/BCoN/Extending-Biodiversity-Collections-Full-Report%282%29.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#F15A29;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Extended
Specimen</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> emerging from the
</span><a href="https://bcon.aibs.org/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#F15A29;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">Biological
Collections Network</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> (BCoN) in the United
States—are now aligning towards a shared
vision that connects all information related
to a specimen, creating in effect “digital
twins” for the materials held in scientific
collections.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Plans for the </span><a
href="https://www.allianceforbio.org/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><i><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#954F72"
lang="EN-US">alliance</span></i><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#954F72"
lang="EN-US"> </span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">consultation on </span><a
href="https://www.allianceforbio.org/post/converging-digital-and-extended-specimens-towards-a-global-specification-for-data-integration"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#954F72"
lang="EN-US">Converging Digital and
Extended Specimens: Towards a global
specification for data integration</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> are progressing well.
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">Beginning in February, the
</span><a href="http://bit.ly/esdsconsult"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#F15A29;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0cm" lang="EN-US">consultation</span></a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> will seek to engage the wider
community on a handful of topics that have
technical, financial, social, governance and
professional implications that require
broader discussion and consensus. The
consultation aims to expand participation in
the process, build support for further
collaboration, identify key use cases, and
develop an initial roadmap for community
adoption and implementation.</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="gmail-m4337678715754977047xmsonormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">GBIF, DiSCCo, iDigBio, ALA, and
the Biodiversity Collections Network (BCoN),
among others, invite you to register for one
of the two virtual opening sessions that
will be held on February 16 by following the
links below and then to become involved in
the Discourse consultation discussion
process.<span
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lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;text-decoration:none"
lang="EN-US">Session 1 6:00 UTC</span></b></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;text-decoration:none"
lang="EN-US">Session 2 15:00 UTC</span></b></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">The GBIF community forum </span><a
href="https://discourse.gbif.org/t/about-the-digital-extended-specimen-category/2394"
target="_blank" title="Original URL:
https://discourse.gbif.org/t/about-the-digital-extended-specimen-category/2394
Click to follow link."
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#954F72"
lang="EN-US">landing page for the
consultation</span></a><span
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lang="EN-US"> is also now live. This page
will hold guidance on the consultation
process with links to the discussion
threads. Please see links on the landing
page to more background documents. If you
are a new user of the GBIF community forum
you will need to register. </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"
lang="EN-US">The organizers are excited by
the large attendance at recent related
events and expect a thoughtful and robust
consultation.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu%2F&data=04%7C01%7CHardistyAR%40cardiff.ac.uk%7Cb68b30d73b974f92850908d8be4f33f9%7Cbdb74b3095684856bdbf06759778fcbc%7C1%7C0%7C637468595607119695%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=x99RzlHzhG8EOAIDlh69YBRckE25CRu%2F4ppyH1vqXxw%3D&reserved=0"
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