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    <p>Andy & all</p>
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    <p>Would be useful to know what are you putting in your barcode
      number.  Web address, UUID, or something similar?</p>
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    <p>In any case, I hope you (and you all) do not anymore write data
      into traditional 1-dimensional barcodes.  When digitizing your
      collection 1-dimensional barcodes take excessive computing time to
      detect and decipher.  Besides, they can easily be printed wrongly,
      start or end bars missing, too much or too little ink, no error
      correction.   Please only use QR codes, thank you,  <br>
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    <p>Hannu<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Hannu Saarenmaa
Bioshare Digitization 
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-02-24 18:01, Miller, Andrew
      Nicholas wrote:<br>
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      <div>My apologies for not being clear.  We will keep all old
        accession (serial) numbers in our databases.  We will just stop
        assigning new numbers to specimens and only assign a barcode
        number.</div>
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      <div>Thanks for all the great opinions!</div>
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      <div>Andy</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">Andrew
                      Miller, Ph.D.</div>
                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">Mycologist
                      and Director of the Herbarium/Fungarium</div>
                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">University
                      of Illinois</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">1816
                      South Oak Street</div>
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                      IL  61820-6970</div>
                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">phone:
                      (217) 244-0439</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">Office
                      address:</div>
                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">Robert
                      A. Evers Laboratory</div>
                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">Room
                      2003</div>
                    <div style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:15px">1909
                      South Oak Street, MC-652</div>
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          face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Robert
          C. Faucett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rfaucett@uw.edu"><rfaucett@uw.edu></a><br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:44 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> Thomas Labedz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tlabedz1@unl.edu"><tlabedz1@unl.edu></a>;
          Callomon,Paul <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu"><prc44@drexel.edu></a>; Miller, Andrew
          Nicholas <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amiller7@illinois.edu"><amiller7@illinois.edu></a>;
          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu></a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> Re: Barcodes and accession numbers</font>
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          <span style="margin:0px; font-size:12pt">Scientific
            publications may reference the old number?</span><br>
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              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Robert
                C. Faucett</span></p>
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              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Collections
                Manager</span></p>
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              font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; margin:0px">
              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Ornithology</span></p>
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              font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; margin:0px">
              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Burke
                Museum</span></p>
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              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black">Box
                353010Test</span></p>
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              font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; margin:0px">
              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black">University
                of Washington</span></p>
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                WA 98195-3010</span></p>
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                206-543-1668</span></p>
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                206-619-5569</span></p>
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                206-685-3039</span></p>
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                    color:rgb(5,99,193)">rfaucett@uw.edu</span></a></span></p>
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              font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; margin:0px">
              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black"><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum__;!!DZ3fjg!o9-STt_XdpErcE1B43wGTm1VJfczfM82K6f4z8teeeiKaVxZOgIRd04hb-PwrFQKwhM$"
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                    style="margin:0px; color:rgb(5,99,193)">www.washington.edu/burkemuseum</span></a></span></p>
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              font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; margin:0px">
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href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/collections/ornithology/index.php__;!!DZ3fjg!o9-STt_XdpErcE1B43wGTm1VJfczfM82K6f4z8teeeiKaVxZOgIRd04hb-Pw9-VgwS4$"
                  target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
title="http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/collections/ornithology/index.php"
                  style="margin:0px" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                    style="margin:0px; color:rgb(5,99,193)">http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/collections/ornithology/index.php</span></a></span></p>
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              <span style="margin:0px; font-size:10.5pt; color:black"><a
href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/collections/genetic/index.php__;!!DZ3fjg!o9-STt_XdpErcE1B43wGTm1VJfczfM82K6f4z8teeeiKaVxZOgIRd04hb-PwZxmaagA$"
                  target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
title="http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/collections/genetic/index.php"
                  style="margin:0px" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                    style="margin:0px; color:rgb(5,99,193)">http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/collections/genetic/index.php</span></a></span></p>
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            face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
            Nhcoll-l <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a> on behalf
            of Thomas Labedz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tlabedz1@unl.edu"><tlabedz1@unl.edu></a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:41 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Callomon,Paul <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu"><prc44@drexel.edu></a>; Miller,
            Andrew Nicholas <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amiller7@illinois.edu"><amiller7@illinois.edu></a>;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession
            numbers</font>
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              In my training the term “accession number” historically
              applied in herbarium situations meant the same as the
              unique “catalog number” in non-herbarium collections.</p>
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              I might be wrestling with the same issue in coming years.</p>
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              Thomas Labedz, Univ. Nebr. State Museum </p>
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              Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.A.</p>
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                  <b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu></a> <b>On
                    Behalf Of </b>Callomon,Paul<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:29 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Miller, Andrew Nicholas
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amiller7@illinois.edu"><amiller7@illinois.edu></a>;
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession
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              Accession codes, as Andy Bentley points out, normally
              record the legal transfer of rights to a defined
              collection or batch of specimens. However, what you mean
              might be closer to a “serial number”. It is advantageous
              for every lot to have a unique serial number in the
              database, as catalog numbers can be duplicates. We have
              about 15,000 duplicate pairs of catalog numbers out of
              just over 500,000 records in the Malacology database. Each
              record has a unique serial number, though, so the pairs
              don’t cause sorting anomalies or other such problems. They
              will get resolved one by one…</p>
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              <span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Paul Callomon</span></p>
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              <span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Collection
                Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates</span></p>
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              <b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Academy of
                  Natural Sciences of Drexel University</span></b></p>
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              <span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">1900 Benjamin
                Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br>
                <i><a href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">prc44@drexel.edu</span></a>
                  Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170</i></span></p>
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                  <b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <<a
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Miller, Andrew Nicholas<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:06 AM<br>
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                  <b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession
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                  Now that we are barcoding our herbarium specimens, we
                  are thinking about dropping our historical method of
                  assigning internal accession numbers.  Is there any
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                  Andy</p>
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