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<div>My apologies for not being clear.  We will keep all old accession (serial) numbers in our databases.  We will just stop assigning new numbers to specimens and only assign a barcode number.</div>
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<div>Thanks for all the great opinions!</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Barcodes and accession numbers</font>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Callomon,Paul <prc44@drexel.edu>; Miller, Andrew Nicholas <amiller7@illinois.edu>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession numbers</font>
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In my training the term “accession number” historically applied in herbarium situations meant the same as the unique “catalog number” in non-herbarium collections.</p>
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<b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Callomon,Paul<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Miller, Andrew Nicholas <amiller7@illinois.edu>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession numbers</p>
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Accession codes, as Andy Bentley points out, normally record the legal transfer of rights to a defined collection or batch of specimens. However, what you mean might be closer to a “serial number”. It is advantageous for every lot to have a unique serial number
 in the database, as catalog numbers can be duplicates. We have about 15,000 duplicate pairs of catalog numbers out of just over 500,000 records in the Malacology database. Each record has a unique serial number, though, so the pairs don’t cause sorting anomalies
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<b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Miller, Andrew Nicholas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Barcodes and accession numbers</p>
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Now that we are barcoding our herbarium specimens, we are thinking about dropping our historical method of assigning internal accession numbers.  Is there any reason to keep both numbers.</p>
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