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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Mare,</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">are you sure that this is only ethanol,
      and not something like Kew-mix or a similar mixture? I am
      wondering because the EtOH concentration is rather low, which
      might be an indication that further ingredients might be included
      in this preservation fluid.<br>
    </div>
    <p>Originally, Kew-mixture was 53% EtOH, 37% water, 5% formaldehyde,
      and 5% glycerol. As far as I know, the formula was changed to 70%
      ETOH, 29% water, and 1% glycerol in the 2nd edition of The
      Herbarium Handbook (1989). But I am not a botanists, and others
      might be in a better position for giving advice?</p>
    <p>Strong dehydration of cells can be an issue, this is why the
      glycerol is added.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      With best wishes</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.05.2021 um 14:53 schrieb Mare
      Nazaire:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">This is a very informative and helpful thread -
        thank you for this!
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        <div>I presume that 70% concentration would also be suitable for
          plant material preserved in spirits? I ask because I've
          recently discovered that some of our collection of fluid
          preserved plant material is at a concentration of 50% and I
          wondered if it is advisable to keep them as is or change their
          concentration to 70%. Are there recommendations in John
          Simmon's book for preserving plant specimens in alcohol and
          could you also provide the citation for this book?</div>
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        <div>Thank you,</div>
        <div>~Mare</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 12:48
          AM Erik Åhlander <<a href="mailto:Erik.Ahlander@nrm.se"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Erik.Ahlander@nrm.se</a>> wrote:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Dear Tonya, John, Simon, Dirk - well all,</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Also I agree. Since I will soon retire I
                  want to share some experiences:</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">When we started to take care of the
                  collection of wet vertebrates in Stockholm in 1975
                  there was no overlap in time (well 1 week) with the
                  previous staff (the previous curator was employed
                  1934-1974). So we had to invent the wheel. The initial
                  ambition was to keep a concentration between 70 and
                  80% ethanol. (We also tested the new suggested
                  conservation fluid Phenoxetol, which after some years
                  showed to be a disaster). To compensate for
                  evaporation, we tried to stick to 80%. New material
                  was fixed in formalin for at least a week, washing in
                  water, 20% ethanol for two days or more, 50% for two
                  days or more, and final storage in 80%. Also we
                  removed all bad jars from the collection – and a bad
                  jar was a jar that needed topping. Expedition material
                  was sorted and identified etc after this stage with
                  the result that many specimens was changed to 80% once
                  more. It took more than 10 years to realize that 80%
                  was to strong. But also that every change of alcohol,
                  or topping, resulted in a higher concentration ethanol
                  since the lowering effect of the alcohol concentration
                  through remnants of the previus stage fluid inside the
                  specimens was removed. Also the small amounts of
                  formalin in the specimen was reduced for each change
                  of fluid. Especially for tiny fish we could find
                  obvious shrinking. Today we are careful
                </span></p>
              <p class="gmail-m_-7675439772973428610MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span style="font:7pt "Times
                      New Roman"">      
                    </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">To keep the specimens in 70% (not more,
                  not less)</span></p>
              <p class="gmail-m_-7675439772973428610MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"><span>2.<span style="font:7pt "Times
                      New Roman"">      
                    </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Not to rinse to much in water. Rather
                  remove the formalin from the surface of the specimen
                  only.</span></p>
              <p class="gmail-m_-7675439772973428610MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"><span>3.<span style="font:7pt "Times
                      New Roman"">      
                    </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Don´t change the fluid if it is not
                  necessary.</span></p>
              <p class="gmail-m_-7675439772973428610MsoListParagraph"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"><span>4.<span style="font:7pt "Times
                      New Roman"">      
                    </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">If you have to remove all fluid, add
                  maybe 80-90% of fresh (70%) ethanol and the rest used
                  ethanol from another specimen.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">All formalin fixed specimens has a small
                  amount of formalin left - that is good.
                </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Some substances in the specimen dissolve
                  in the alcohol (just look at an alcohol preserved
                  Anguilla…). Every change of alcohol add to the
                  removing of lipids etc - that is bad.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">As far as we know, formalin was used for
                  the first time at the NRM in 1904, but only
                  occasionally! Still in the 1940s ethanol was commonly
                  used for fixation in the field. When the museum moved
                  from downtown Stockholm to north of the city in 1916,
                  the economy for alcohol was reduced due to world war I
                  (otherwise Sweden was not involved). This led to the
                  invention to use a diluted formalin solution for the
                  exhibition jars (for specimens fixed in ethanol!). The
                  research collection continued to be stored in ethanol.
                  Our collection is old. We estimate that our oldest
                  specimens in ethanol are from the 1720s (from the Seba
                  collection). Still many specimens from before 1758 are
                  in remarkable good condition. In some specimens it is
                  even possible to get small pieces of DNA with ancient
                  DNA technic – but usually not. This sounds
                  contradicting to some statements above. We don’t know
                  too much about the preservation history of these
                  specimens, but what we know might be of general
                  interest. The initial fixation and preservation was in
                  distilled wine (=“spiritus vini”). We don’t know the
                  concentration, and probably it was not pure ethanol,
                  but also contained small amount of other fractions
                  from the wine, more like strong cognac. The Royal
                  collection (of king Adolf Fredrik with many Linnaean
                  types) was donated to the Royal Swedish Academy of
                  Sciences in 1801. NRM was founded in 1819, but
                  immediately in practice fused with the Academy. In
                  1848 the collections of the Academy was formally
                  donated to the Museum. From the 1740s to 1970 this
                  collection of  vertebrates in alcohol was moved four
                  times. Jars and fluid was probably changed twice. But
                  most of the time the collection was stored cool and
                  dark. Glasses and fluids was expensive so the ratio:
                  specimen volume / conservation fluid volume was high
                  up to 1900.  From 1801-1898 the major part seems to
                  have been almost untouched, except that the whole
                  collection was moved 1500 meters in 1829.</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">I was once asked how long a specimen
                  could be stored in alcohol. With the reservation that
                  our old specimens will be stored like today, no sudden
                  disasters etc (and no climate change), I decided that
                  to 2220 = 500 years would be possible, maybe 1000
                  years.</span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Erik Åhlander</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">vertebrate zoology and museum history</span></p>
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                  lang="EN-US">ZOO</span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"
                  lang="EN-US">Swedish Museum of Natural History</span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">PO
                  Box 50007</span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">SE-10405
                  Stockholm</span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Sweden</span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">+46
                  0 8 5195 4118</span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">+46
                  0 70 225 2716</span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond,serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a
                    href="mailto:erik.ahlander@nrm.se" target="_blank"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">erik.ahlander@nrm.se</a></span></p>
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                        style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Från:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <<a
                        href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
                      <b>För </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
                      <b>Skickat:</b> den 7 maj 2021 08:36<br>
                      <b>Till:</b> <a
                        href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
                      <b>Ämne:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Alcohol concentration
                      for terrestrial vertebrates</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Tonya (and John and Simon ;-)</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">concur with John and Simon,
                  specimens should be kept in 70%; Simon pointed to the
                  diluting effects and the image below nicely
                  illustrates this: even if you use more steps for
                  transferring specimens (0/20/40/60/80 vs.
                  20/30/50/70), tissues are still soaked with 60% or
                  less high concentrated EtOH.</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Depending on size, body mass and
                  number of specimens (i.e. amount of tissue in the
                  jar), the effect can be considerable (see "staining"
                  in the images below; in the left one, body fluids
                  released from these tall whitefish are indicated by
                  the reddish haemoglobin stain at the bottom of the
                  jar, the overall greenish colour in the right comes
                  from chlorophyll released from the guts of these
                  herbivorous distichodus fish).</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I do the initial filling usually
                  with 73-75% EtOH to reach 70%; aside from vertebrates
                  high EtOH concentrations can be an issue in malaise
                  traps because there the specimens usually are
                  collected over several days or weeks in 96-80% EtOH.
                  As Simon pointed out this quickly dehydrates specimens
                  and weakens the joints holding all the antennae,
                  appendices, bristles of invertebrates. Another issue
                  is that in unsorted malaise trap samples there often
                  is a thick deposit of specimens at the bottom of the
                  container. Because the diluted less high concentrated
                  ethanol is heavier, it layers at the bottom of the jar
                  (cf. whitefish jar). Inside malaise trap containers,
                  this diluted EtOH may get trapped in the thick
                  specimen deposit.</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Usually, I leave jars for few day
                  to see if there are any unwanted effects before moving
                  them into the collection.</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hope this is useful, with best
                  wishes</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Dirk</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Am 07.05.2021 um 00:17 schrieb
                  Simon Moore:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks John and Tonya, </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">What John says is true about the
                    staging of alcohols and the final concentrations.
                     80% was what I was advised at the NHM in London
                    when I worked there and by the time larger
                    terrestrial vertebrates ‘end up’ in 80%, you will
                    often find that with the mix of lower grade alcohols
                    from the staging process, once things have settled
                    down / equilibrated, then the net result is around
                    70% anyway.  Higher grade alcohols  can lead to
                    embrittlement of certain tissues as well as
                    evaporation issues.</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">I have also found the staging
                    process necessary for the more fragile specimens as
                    they undergo changes in Osmotic pressure during this
                    process which can cause syneresis or shrinkage in
                    softer tissues.</p>
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                        <br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 6 May 2021, at 22:50, John E
                      Simmons <<a
                        href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">simmons.johne@gmail.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <br>
                      Tonya,<br>
                      Thank you for your kind words about my book. The
                      recommendation for staging up to 80% concentration
                      was by made by my friend Simon Moore, who I cited
                      in that sentence. In general, I do not recommend
                      using 80% ETOH as a preservative for terrestrial
                      vertebrates, but rather 70%. Preservation is
                      alcohol is a trade-off between dehydration of
                      the specimens and providing them suitable
                      protection against biological deterioration. At
                      70%, ETOH is a very good biocide; below that, not
                      so good, and above 70%, too strong for most
                      specimens (note that there are some instances in
                      which 80% might be preferred). <br>
                      <br>
                      I do not recommend using stronger alcohol as a
                      hedge against evaporation--that leads to uneven
                      concentrations of preservatives and can be a real
                      mess to work with in a collection.<br>
                      <br>
                      For how-to instructions on preserving,
                      transferring specimens, and managing a fluid
                      preserved collection, you might want to
                      check Herpetological Collecting and
                      Collections Management (3rd edition, 2015). The
                      instructions for preserving and managing fluid
                      preserved animals will work for most other
                      specimens as well as for reptiles and amphibians.<br>
                      <br>
                      Hope this helps,<br>
                      --John<br>
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                      John E. Simmons<br>
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                      Penn State University<br>
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                      Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional
                      Mayor de San Marcos, Lima<br>
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                      On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:05 PM Haff, Tonya (NCMI,
                      Crace) <<a href="mailto:Tonya.Haff@csiro.au"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Tonya.Haff@csiro.au</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      Hello all,<br>
                      <br>
                      I am enjoying reading John Simmon's fantastic book
                      on fluid preservation. In it I read one suggestion
                      for stepping specimens up out of formalin fixative
                      into preservation alcohol as follows: from 20%
                      ETOH to 40% to 60% and finally to 80%. We
                      typically place our specimens in 70% ETOH, and I
                      know higher concentrations can cause some problems
                      with specimen dehydration. All our specimens are
                      terrestrial vertebrates. I presume the final 80%
                      provides a buffer against ETOH evaporation or
                      leaching of water from the specimen into the fluid
                      in the jar, to ensure that the alcohol
                      concentration in the preservation fluid stays
                      sufficiently high? But to me this is not quite
                      clear. I wonder if any of you have thoughts on
                      this, or if you would be willing to share how you
                      step your specimens up in ETOH? <br>
                      <br>
                      Thank you!<br>
                      <br>
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        Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage<br>
        Münchhausenstr. 21<br>
        81247 München<br>
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        Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:<br>
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        Dirk Neumann<br>
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        Tel: +49-89-8107-111<br>
        Fax: +49-89-8107-300<br>
        neumann(a)snsb.de<br>
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        postal address:<br>
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        Bavarian Natural History Collections<br>
        The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology<br>
        Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage<br>
        Muenchhausenstr. 21<br>
        81247 Munich (Germany)<br>
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        Visit our section at:<br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/">http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/</a><br>
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