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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m not a fish person, but I just want to throw my two cents in regarding genetic barcoding. I would caution against IDing a specimen based on a mitochondrial locus, since the mitochondrial and nuclear genomes may have different and conflicting
evolutionary histories. But if you have tissues, you can always go back with new genomic tech/knowledge, which is great!<br>
-Katrina<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> <b>
On Behalf Of </b>Bentley, Andrew Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 1, 2021 11:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Angela Hornsby <adhornsby@gmail.com>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Hornsby, Angela <angela.hornsby@mso.umt.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on partial fish voucher options<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_GoBack"></a>Hi Angela<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, I would say a good photo voucher would do the trick to act as a proxy for a physical voucher. With the advent of CO1 sequencing, the need for a physical voucher has been somewhat reduced – especially for common, easy to identify species.
We have a number of tissues in our collection that only have photo vouchers, or in some cases, no voucher at all. Not ideal but better than not having the tissue at all in my view.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of Angela Hornsby <<a href="mailto:adhornsby@gmail.com">adhornsby@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 11:44 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Hornsby, Angela" <<a href="mailto:angela.hornsby@mso.umt.edu">angela.hornsby@mso.umt.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Nhcoll-l] Advice on partial fish voucher options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I'm hoping someone has a few minutes to help a mammalogist learn how to deal with fish!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">In short, a grad student here is collecting up to 1500 fish this summer for a project on environmental
toxins. Because the fish will be pulled apart to analyze separate tissues and search for parasites, they'll be in poor condition by the time they're in our (the museum's) hands.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">My question is whether there is a preferred partial voucher option for fish. Dermestid-cleaned skeletons? Dried scales?
Fins in EtOH? Since vouchering wasn't in the original research plan, </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">we don't have the capacity to formalin fix the remaining carcasses
even if that's the preferred option. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">We'll be ultracold archiving tissue, regardless.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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