<div dir="ltr">Hi all, <div><br></div><div>Chris Grinter beat me to it ;). Naturalis has started storing Lepidoptera in glassine envelopes for the past few years just as we have done with Odonata in the past decades, because it is so advantageous. The envelopes are relatively cheap, easy to handle, not static and can "breathe" if specimens are not absolutely dry. The only disadvantage is that it is only semi-transparant. The material we use is of archival quality, produced by Lindner and supplied by De Man - Werkendam, Netherlands. I can dig a bit deeper for the specifications of the material if anyone is interested, let me know. I suspect the crumbling envelopes must be old ones, it is quite easy these days to find good archival quality and affordable glassine envelopes. <div><div>The plastic that Douglas Yanega is referring to might be <i>mylar</i>, which has also been used in our Odonata collection. This is very expensive, somewhat static, does not breathe, but has the advantage that the specimens can be studied without removing them from the envelopes. We still have some supply available but I primarily use glassine for the Odonates. In any case, the specimens can always be easily accessed from these envelopes when they need to be relaxed and/or mounted. </div></div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps</div><div>Max Caspers</div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 at 14:00, Menard, Katrina <<a href="mailto:katrina.menard@uconn.edu">katrina.menard@uconn.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>We likely will go the route of custom sleeves with ziplock tops like the Royal British Columbia Museum’s manuscript on Odonate storage (<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330816327_An_Efficient_Storage_System_for_Adult_Odonata_Specimens_With_Application_for_Other_Museum_Collections&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cacb00fb16f59440f2f3b08d93cfac085%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637607869936453874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0=%7C1000&sdata=dcAjdKhDe4yTP8rQkoxEJeR0HGsdDllTaDYOjBzav0o=&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F330816327_An_Efficient_Storage_System_for_Adult_Odonata_Specimens_With_Application_for_Other_Museum_Collections&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cacb00fb16f59440f2f3b08d93cfac085%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637607869936453874%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dcAjdKhDe4yTP8rQkoxEJeR0HGsdDllTaDYOjBzav0o%3D&reserved=0</a>)
since it gives the option of accessing the specimen to spread them if need be. If not, it was very helpful to see what and how other people are using as solutions to paper sleeves.</div>
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<div>This paper discusses the storage technique, but I agree with Doug—much of the glassine I've seen used in collections is not archival. I've picked up envelopes and had them crumble, or they are yellowed and have wicked oils from specimens. I think
applying Odonata standards (clear poly bagging) is superior.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 5:26 PM Douglas Yanega <<a href="mailto:dyanega@gmail.com" target="_blank">dyanega@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 7/1/21 1:04 PM, Menard, Katrina wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
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> I was curious whether there are collections out there that store<span> </span><br>
> sleeved lepidopteran material (like Odonata). We have a large amount<span> </span><br>
> of butterflies that are stored in paper and glassine envelopes that<span> </span><br>
> would take several lifetimes to spread, and we neither have the time<span> </span><br>
> nor space to go that route. We like the idea of glassine sleeves as a<span> </span><br>
> more permanent and protective way to store our enveloped material, but<span> </span><br>
> wanted more input from the community on this.<br>
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We have plenty of odonates in glassines in our collection, but these<span> </span><br>
appear to be some sort of plastic, and are therefore very different from<span> </span><br>
the glassines used for leps. I suspect there may be issues surrounding<span> </span><br>
the archival properties of the latter, especially since paper may be<span> </span><br>
acidic. We do have some very old papered leps (in both plain paper and<span> </span><br>
glassines), and I see signs that there may be chemical interactions<span> </span><br>
taking place; if you dump a lep out of a very old glassine, there is<span> </span><br>
often a visible "stain" where the specimen was, and it's not just the<span> </span><br>
body. These old glassines are also distinctly yellowed. It's reason to<span> </span><br>
be suspicious, at least.<br>
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<span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">NHCOLL-L
is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
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History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
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is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
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history collections to ensure their continuing value to</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
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See<span> </span></span><a href="http://www.spnhc.org/" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">http://www.spnhc.org</a><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>for
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NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of<br>
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Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.<br>
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