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<p class="MsoNormal">No, I would not say that is the case.  It very much depends on how these have been treated over the years as to whether viable DNA can be extracted from them.  DNA has been extracted from worse.  If they have been frozen at -20 consistently
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, August 16, 2021 at 1:47 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] frozen tissue collections<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">I've dug into some of the very helpful resources you shared and would appreciate some further input. At this point, we are focusing our efforts on working through a 20 year backlog of
 carcasses stored in -20C freezers awaiting more traditional specimen preps, rather than collecting new specimens. Most of these specimens are relatively common species that were salvaged or were put into coolers during field surveys and then frozen. I thought
 it would be good to also preserve tissues for genomic studies as we prepare these specimens, but after reading the papers you shared, it seems like these specimens have little to no chance of yielding useful genetic material given their storage history so
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 11:47 AM Catherine Early (she/her) <<a href="mailto:cearly@smm.org" target="_blank">cearly@smm.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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and we are committed to using STEM as a tool to advocate for justice and equity.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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