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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Catherine,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Probably they really have no data accessible, but this should be checked. They have probably not much information
with present technic, but may have in the future. Many large mammals will be extinct soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I was first employed at the NRM in 1975. In 1974 an unknown number of specimens without labels were discarded. One specimen,
a stuffed sea turtle, was rescued from the garbage container by an older collegue. He kept it as decoration at his summer house. When he retired a few years ago I suggested that he should donate it back to the museum. It was quite damaged, and it was easy
to see the taxidermy technic! It is definitely from the 18<sup>th</sup> century, and possibly it should be included in the type series of Testudo mydas Linnaeus, 1758! Another specimens that seems to have been discarded at the same time was a quite ugly sort
of trophy mount. Luckily it was photographed in the 1960s. It was the holotype specimen of Bos caffer Sparrman, 1779. They “had no data”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No opinion. Situation in USA and Sweden is quite different.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">Erik Åhlander<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">vertebrate zoology and museum history<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">ZOO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">Swedish Museum of Natural History<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">PO Box 50007<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">SE-10405 Stockholm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">Sweden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">+46 0 8 5195 4118<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">+46 0 70 225 2716<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#1F497D">erik.ahlander@nrm.se<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Från:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>För </b>Catherine Early (she/her)<br>
<b>Skickat:</b> den 14 oktober 2021 15:18<br>
<b>Till:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Ämne:</b> [Nhcoll-l] no data specimens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">I have a two-part question today:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">1) Is there any
<i>scientific</i> value to tanned hides with no data? We have many large mammal hides that were purchased from fur suppliers in the 1970's that take up a lot of room but lack data. We might keep one of each species for identification, but otherwise, they do
not belong in a scientific collection (where we are constantly running out of space), correct? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">2) Have any of your institutions developed protocols for deaccessioning no data specimens into the hands of private citizens? We will prioritize giving no data (former) specimens
to education centers, but there is a limited need for no data shell collections that previous curators accepted from donors, so we will likely need to look elsewhere. We know that we would be limited in what we could give to private citizens by permit restrictions
for owning wildlife parts, but we're also very concerned with devaluing public opinions of specimens by creating the impression that specimens can just be given away. I would love to hear any language or agreements you've developed to make it clear why items
are deaccessioned and how they differ from scientific specimens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Thanks</span></span><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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