<div dir="ltr"><div>I think this discussion has made it clear that alcohol is the most critical issue to consider when planning for compact shelving: about 750 ml, in wine form, for each of a group of collections managers spending an evening together. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I submit that this would be the most efficient planning investment possible. <br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">-Dean<br>-- <br>Dean Pentcheff<br><a href="mailto:pentcheff@gmail.com" target="_blank">pentcheff@gmail.com</a></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="mailto:dpentche@nhm.org" target="_blank">pentcheff@nhm.org</a><br><a href="https://research.nhm.org/disco" target="_blank">https://research.nhm.org/disco</a></div><div dir="ltr"><img src="http://research.nhm.org/images/DISCO_lockup_4color-300.png"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:24 AM Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">neumann@snsb.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>... no dissent here, Paul, but as you
say, you <u>free</u> space without gaining new. Depending on size
of collection and annual growth, the initial problem (lack of
space) is unresolved but mitigated with an interim solution (which
might be a good or the best available solution under given
budgetary constraints).</div>
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<div>If compacting is considered from the
beginning (as indicated by Lennart), you loose the potential to
free space later on right from the start. Worth adding to Paul's
equation (mentioned in one of the earlier posts as well, think by
John) is the additional staff time that is needed to access,
manage and monitor the collection, e.g. costs to redo seals when
the compactors turn out to be less well designed/functional for
whatever reasons (cf. Lucia's example). @ John: I meant the seals
of the jars (e.g. flanged cylinders or stoppered jars), not seals
between carriages - sorry for the misunderstanding.</div>
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<div>All these variables should be taken
into consideration, to be realistic on <u>all</u> pros and cons
when planning to compact. Even if X+Y are the most appealing and
often only realistic options to store more objects. <br>
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<div>Am 15.12.2021 um 16:51 schrieb
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<p class="MsoNormal">To Dirk’s point, compactors definitely DO
free up space, because within them there is only ever one
aisle. In a non-compactorized layout there are multiple aisles
that take up space though only one might be in use at any
given time. If X is the total width of your cabinets and Y the
width of one aisle, then uncompactorized total width is X +
(XY), whereas compactorized it’s X + Y. That’s the sum total
of my math ability, incidentally.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PC<u></u><u></u></p>
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