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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I Lennart,</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I doubt that jars will be stable on
this sort of shelves; also, how much would be the total allowed
weight on such shelves? The design doesn't seem to be suited to
carry huge weights.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">With best wishes</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 05.01.2022 um 12:17 schrieb Lennart
Lennuk:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Most of our fluid
preserved collection is in 100, 300 and 500ml jars.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">This far I have
been asking the shelving company for perforated steel shelf
plates finished with powder coating<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">but the company
is trying to convince me to use the shelving shown on the
picture in my previous letter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Best!<br>
Lennart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-language:ET"> Dirk Neumann
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">mailto:neumann@snsb.de</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 5, 2022 12:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lennart Lennuk
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Lennart.Lennuk@loodusmuuseum.ee"><Lennart.Lennuk@loodusmuuseum.ee></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] shelving in wet
collection<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Lennart,<span
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<p class="MsoNormal">to me this looks like storage for lab
consumables, and even for this purpose you may need to
prefer (closed) chemical cabinets instead of open storage
(depending on the lab chemicals).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For ordinary fluid preserved collections,
the recommendation is not to go below 75 ml fluid volume per
container. Depending on the quality of the closures and the
environmental settings in the storage area, containers below
75 ml may dry up fast, if the seal/closure is bad. Depending
on the number of jars, you would need to adjust your
monitoring regime to spot evaporation losses and to prevent
damage to objects stored in smaller containers.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you would need or want to store
specimens in smaller volumes, it would make more sense to
use closed cabinets with drawers. Ideally, as Simon
recommends, the drawers are equipped with grids or boxes
that stabilise the small vials or tubes. We have equipped
our cool and refrigerated storage with <a
href="https://www.lista.com/en/products/drawer-cabinets/"
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such drawer-cabinets</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dirk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 05.01.2022 um 10:38 schrieb Lennart
Lennuk:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Hi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Do you have
any experience using this kind of shelving in wet
collections?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">I am worried
about load-bearing capacity and also the stability of
little jars.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Is it ok to
place a rubber mat under little jars to maintain the
stability?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Best regards!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Lennart Lennuk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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neumann(a)snsb.de<br>
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Fax: +49-89-8107-300<br>
neumann(a)snsb.de<br>
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postal address:<br>
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The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology<br>
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage<br>
Muenchhausenstr. 21<br>
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