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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thank you all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dirk, I ment the terminology for the act that has to be done when specimen is lost, destroyed, gifted to another museum etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">'Deaccession' seems right to me.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Head!<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-language:ET">From:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:ET"> Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 14, 2022 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] terminology question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Good morning Lennart,<span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:ET"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">what exactly do you mean with "destroyed"? There may be different levels:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our collection had many losses during the Second World War, specimens were considered "destroyed", but some where apparently only "lost" and reappeared later and re-discovered, e.g. in the teaching collection of the university. Usually,
you would refer to "destroyed", if there is proof. Otherwise , it is better to say "missing" or "lost since" if the specimen cannot be traced. We keep records for all (published) historic specimens from our collection in our database (not only the types),
as we receive sporadically requests from scientists for these specimens. Examples for the different stages of "lost" missing" destroyed" are for example in
<a href="https://pfeil-verlag.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/spix34_2_10.pdf">our type catalogue</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, if a specimen is destroyed, e.g., as a result of destructive sampling (tissue samples that are entirely consumed with subsequently available DNA-data or DNA aliquots, or none of both, because extractions fail etc.), you would surely
keep the records (in this case specifically, especially for collections in the EU, because of the 20-year reporting obligation in the EU ABS regulation).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Even when deaccessioning material, you surely kept the files of this fact.
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<p class="MsoNormal">So maybe this helps for you terminology question, but I am not quite sure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 14.01.2022 um 09:49 schrieb Lennart Lennuk:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Hi!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Just a quick terminology question.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">What is a word for the act when an specimen in collection is destroyed and it needs to be maked that this specimen no longer exist in that collection?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Best regards!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Lennart Lennuk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Head of collections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">Estonian Museum of Natural History</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ET">+372 6603404, 56569916</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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