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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you very much for your recommendations and help. Seems that Paraloid B72 is the main tool for this subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">All references are wellcome. Specially, I found interesting a document that Chris Taker sent me to my personal email. I share this document in case it may be of interest
to other colleagues. Thanks Chris!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Fox, Marilyn <marilyn.fox@yale.edu><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>viernes, 14 de enero de 2022, 22:18<br>
<b>Para: </b>Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeletons assembly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi, Sergio, although these papers are focused on fossils, the information applies to both Recent and fossil specimens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I hope they are of help, Marilyn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Marilyn Fox (</span><a href="mailto:marilyn.fox@yale.edu"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0563C1">marilyn.fox@yale.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US">)<br>
Chief Preparator, Division of Vertebrate Paleontology<br>
Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History<br>
Collections Study Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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(mailing address)<br>
P O Box 208118<br>
New Haven CT USA 06520-8118<br>
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(</span><a href="http://www.peabody.yale.edu/"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0563C1">http://www.peabody.yale.edu</span></a><span lang="EN-US">)<br>
1-203-432-3747<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of "Callomon,Paul" <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:49 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Anderson, Gretchen" <AndersonG@CarnegieMNH.Org>, Mariana Di Giacomo <maru.digi@gmail.com>, Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeletons assembly</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Another nice quality of Paraloid B-72 is that you can mix it yourself from dry granules (we use acetone, though other solvents work too) so you can make a thin solution to act as a penetrating primer, then a thicker one
to be the actual adhesive between the primed surfaces. If you have a clean break in something like bone, however, you can use a very thin solution as the adhesive and get an almost undetectable bond layer.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I agree that PVA is not good for museum specimen work; apart from anything else, the A stands for Acetate, and it gives off acetic acid as it cures. It’s great for bonding wood, though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Paul Callomon</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Anderson, Gretchen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 14, 2022 2:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mariana Di Giacomo <maru.digi@gmail.com>; Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeletons assembly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:white">Dear Sergio,
</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I fully agree with Mariana’s recommendation of Paraloid B-72. As she notes cyanoacrylates and epoxies are too strong, with a tendency to discolor. Epoxies are difficult to reverse and remove.
PVA’s (like white glue) are designed for paper and wood and will expand and contract with fluctuations in relative humidity. They have what is called cold flow, which means that they will shift as the environment changes.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I am available to chat as well. But Mariana’s advice to find a local conservator who can advise you on local options is excellent.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Good Luck!<br>
Gretchen Anderson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Conservator, <br>
Carnegie Museum of Natural History<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US">From: </span>
</b><a href="mailto:maru.digi@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US">Mariana Di Giacomo</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Friday, January 14, 2022 11:00 AM<br>
<b>To: </b></span><a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US">Sergio Montagud</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Cc: </b></span><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"><span lang="EN-US">NHCOLL-new</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skeletons assembly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">I would recommend the use of a museum-grade (also referred to as archival quality) adhesive for any museum related purposes. For this reason, Paraloid B72 is an excellent choice. There are others
out there and we can continue to chat if you wish, but my other recommendation would be to speak to a local conservator who can guide you to find the best one(s) in your area.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Adhesives such as cyanoacrylates and epoxies are too strong for recent bone and can cause damage in the long run.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Let me know if you want to chat further.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, 06:43 Sergio Montagud <</span><a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@gmail.com"><span lang="EN-US">sergio.montagud@gmail.com</span></a><span lang="EN-US">> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear all,</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We are looking the best type of glue to use for assembly skeletons and standarize a protocol. Many of our specimens come from students' work, who have used mostly the Loctite glue (instant
glue) for small animals like birds, reptiles, rodents and bats. Other animals like large mammals or prey raptors has been mounted with Epoxi glue, that mixed two components and remains very fixed. But this mix is dark color. Other pieces in the paleontology
collection are join with Paraloid with high concentration.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What cain of glue do you recommended for setting skeletons and join bones as principal protocol?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Is there any well-documented work or reference where all this information is indicated?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks in advance!</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Sergio Montagud Alario<br>
Museu [UV] Història Natural<br>
Universitat de València<br>
e-mail:<span class="m4045090963829103364apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@uv.es" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3333CC">sergio.montagud@uv.es</span></a><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><br>
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