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<pre style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear all, <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">indeed, it is a very interesting subject! </span><span lang="EN" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#202124">The last years, I am asked about <span class="y2iqfc">the economic value of specimens or collections. Usually from donators, </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">for insurance, or other administrative reasons. My answer is always that each specimen is priceless and that it is impossible to define the value of a natural history museum collection in euros. <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style="text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideograph"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If the person insists, I answer that is definitely not our job to “tag” a prize on specimens or collection and he should address to the tax office (and I am sure that they know nothing on the subject, in Greece).<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">For some time know, I believe that, we should establish a method to estimate the value of Natural History Collections</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#202124">
</span><span class="y2iqfc"><span lang="EN" style="color:#202124">based on their scientific, cultural and educational value, by using appropriate criteria and a scoring system.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="y2iqfc"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#202124">Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="y2iqfc"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#202124">Maria<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dr. Maria Dimaki<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Collections Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In Charge of the Department of Terrestrial Zoology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Goulandris Natural History Museum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">100, Othonos St. Kifissia, GR 145 62, Greece<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0cm"><b>Από: </b><a href="mailto:neumann@snsb.de">Dirk Neumann</a><br>
<b>Αποστολή: </b>Τρίτη, 8 Μαρτίου 2022 7:39 μμ<br>
<b>Προς: </b><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Θέμα: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated collections?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Hannu,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1€ would be better; within the EU (and the single market) you have no customs borders anyway, and if you need to send materials to Norway, Switzerland or Iceland, 1€ would be preferable to avoid import taxes. Usually, the threshold for
import tax is low (until the most recent amendment this year, the minor threshold value was 22€). Colleagues were charged recently few cent because the declared value was 5€ ...
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<p class="MsoNormal">With best wishes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dirk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 08.03.2022 um 12:48 schrieb Hannu Saarenmaa:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The answer is "nil". In computer science terms that means it does not exist. Nil also means "infinite".
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Museum objects are irreplaceable. So there is no commercial value. Or something that can be insured. Natural science collections cannot be insured.
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My company bioshare.com regularly sends collections over the European Union border, for digitization, that is. While doing that, we have to put something in the customs forms. And to inform our insurance company. So we put there the value of the paper sheets
which carry the [invaluable] herbarium sheets, or other objects. That currently is 28€ per specimen. Do not laugh. This is how it works.
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Anyway, I still prefer to report "nil" or zero value for the irreplaceable. If I can.
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On 2022-03-08 11:42, Battermann, Nora wrote: <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all, <br>
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I thought this a very interesting discussion but understand that it mainly concerned US institutions. I'd be interested to hear from European institutions too - how do you estimate the values of donated collections? I am not aware of a list of appraisers who
specialize in natural history collections in Germany for example and wonder how other institutions handle acquisitions, especially donations.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Everyone has offered good advice here. <br>
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Apart from conflicts of interest, the one that does the appraisal <br>
stands to get involved with the state or federal tax enforcement. If <br>
the appraisal is called into question, that represents a nearly <br>
limitless time sink in hearings or in court. <br>
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We tell donors that we will work with whatever appraiser they <br>
designate. We still get offers of "I'll donate this if you'll get me <br>
an appraisal for X amount of money." That's a big "no, thank you." <br>
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Chris Tacker <br>
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Good morning all, <br>
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A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on <br>
how to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly <br>
skins, some taxidermy mounts). He’s not interested in individual <br>
values for each piece, but a big picture “lump sum.” I’m sure <br>
this has come up on the listserve before, but I haven’t been able to <br>
locate it. If anyone has ideas or can point me in the direction of a <br>
resource to send to my colleague, I’d really appreciate it! I have <br>
no appraisal skills myself – and I’m a botanist – so I’m at a <br>
total loss on my end. <br>
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Sarah <br>
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