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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, the whole lot based collection scenario is also a complicating factor. For instance, our fish collection here at KU only has about 43,000 catalog records (which is reflected as 43,000 records in GBIF) but we have 680,000 specimens!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
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University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ORCID: <span style="color:#494A4C;background:white"><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU"><a href="http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0563C1">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Derek Sikes <dssikes@alaska.edu> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 17, 2022 11:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley@ku.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lennart Lennuk <lennart.lennuk@loodusmuuseum.ee>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] How many specimens<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It also depends on how one defines specimens.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Some define a specimen as a catalog record, i.e. 1 <i>or more</i> specimens since some catalog records are for 'lots' e.g. 2 ants on 1 pin, or 15 spiders in 1 vial.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thus, you will get very different numbers if you tally catalog records based on specimens, compared to tallying the actual specimens themselves.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Derek<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 6:16 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Lennart<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This is extremely difficult to estimate but estimates range into the billions (3-5 billion in various publications). We can really only track digitized records and the best way
to do this is through GBIF where specimen based records are around 216 million (observation records are close to 2 billion in comparison!!).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><img border="0" width="229" height="191" style="width:2.3854in;height:1.9895in" id="gmail-m_-3860682338021395945Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D839F6.4EB459D0" alt="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/GwHlBWgSSahK3K6RO4pue6K0rRlXR6uGxtmWn-V-DYerXzruT5eBr7ZpuiNVMSa4IB936_94wp6msqL-4Nh2L7-kvETPIoSaoatQle4tAH2rZJtE08VttHso6cQ8AgOLso0Wdoc"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hope that helps<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Andy<o:p></o:p></p>
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University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
USA<br>
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Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank">(785) 864-5335</a> <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">ORCID:
<span style="color:#494A4C;background:white"><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-3093-1258&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C107832bdd6364b96254508da0836af86%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637831328224508348%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ATJscygd%2FgPcWFQCJPEDrNubrnTV1f0yl%2BYEJuWJtj8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lennart Lennuk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 17, 2022 3:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] How many specimens<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Hi!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Does anybody have lately calculated how many specimens are there in the natural history collections?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Best regards!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Lennart Lennuk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Head of collections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Estonian Museum of Natural History</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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