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I have been using Hobo loggers for years now & love them. I'm not so in love with my MX1101s though. I've had issues with the Bluetooth connection - sometimes they want to talk to my computer & sometimes not. I contacted customer service & the long & the
short of it was that he said that Bluetooth is not the most robust of platforms. I prefer the UX100 series loggers as I have never had a problem downloading the data whether I do it directly to my laptop or via the shuttle. I like that the cord to download
is the same one that I use to download images from my digital camera. My 2¢.</div>
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<span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);display:inline !important">Sue Maltby, Conservator, Fellow IIC</span>
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<b>Sent:</b> March 28, 2022 1:31 AM<br>
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<div>Once again concurring with Andy:</div>
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<div>Yes, with the Bluetooth units it's just a matter of a minute or so to stand near the unit (30 m or less), download the data, and relaunch the logger. As Andy says, the batteries they use are cheap and last 6–12 months (the unit will give you plenty of
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<div>That works well for situations where you do not require real-time monitoring. There are units that can be plugged into Ethernet, or that can link to a WiFi wireless network, but they are indeed significantly more expensive. Obviously, they also require
a nearby Ethernet tap or active wireless (which is often a problem in collections spaces).
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<div>If you don't need real-time, the completely stand-alone nature of the HOBO loggers (for example, the MX1101 [costs US$145]) makes it really easy to put sensors where you want them, not forced where you have wire or WiFi connections. It is possible to augment
them with an "MX Gateway" (costs US$375), which can connect between Ethernet or WiFi and one or more Bluetooth loggers that are within Bluetooth range. That provides the possibility of starting with standalone monitors that you download by walking past, then
adding the MX Gateway later if budget permits and near-real-time is needed. <br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 6:34 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Lennart<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li style="color:black; margin-left:0in"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">the bluetooth does not seem to give a opportunity for a central monitoring system<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Not sure what you mean by a central montoring system but essentially with these bluethooth units all you need to do is get close to them and you can
download to a smartphone, tablet or computer. There are central monitoring systems available but they are much more expensive and require costly installation as far as I am aware. The nice thing about these is that they are self-contained and cheap.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li style="color:black; margin-left:0in"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">battery powering means that there is need to change batteries regulary – would it be better if the loggers are connected to main current?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We only have to change the batteries in our loggers every 5-6 months if that and it is a very easy process. They all take the CR 2032 watch batteries. Again, I think there
are units that can be connected to main current but will require costly installation. These units can be placed anywhere and moved at any time.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Biodiversity Institute<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<a><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">1345 Jayhawk Boulevard</span></a><br>
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Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">(785) 864-5335</span></a> <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(5,99,193)">abentley@ku.edu</span></a> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lennart Lennuk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 25, 2022 3:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] monitoring collections environment<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Thank you.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">So the HOBO seems to be a good choice, but I still have few questions.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li style="color:black; margin-left:0in"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">the bluetooth does not seem to give a opportunity for a central monitoring system<u></u><u></u></span></li><li style="color:black; margin-left:0in"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">battery powering means that there is need to change batteries regulary – would it be better if the loggers are connected to main current?<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:black">Best!<br>
Lennart<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="ET" style="font-size:11pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Dean Pentcheff [<a href="mailto:pentcheff@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:pentcheff@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 18, 2022 6:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Lennart Lennuk <<a href="mailto:Lennart.Lennuk@loodusmuuseum.ee" target="_blank">Lennart.Lennuk@loodusmuuseum.ee</a>>; Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET">We've used a number of them for quite a few years. They have been remarkably stable and dependable. All the units we deployed in 2014 are still functioning just fine (along with newer ones we've purchased since then).
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET">Here in Southern California, we can even get away with using an "indoor" sensor outdoors in an appropriate outdoor temperature instrument screened housing. But I don't recommend that for locations with actual weather.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET">On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 6:27 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I would suggest HOBO recorders from Onset. There are various different models that are battery operated and can be downloaded through Bluetooth connection to your smartphone for transfer to your computer. They also have an LCD display
for real time monitoring.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The ones that we use for monitoring our collection spaces are these:
<span lang="ET"><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.onsetcomp.com%2Fproducts%2Fdata-loggers%2Fmx1101&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C309067edd65f448915c808da0e366a12%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637837924273497772%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=gT5x2WB55Qw5LK0z9b8IZGqVhLSCbLA3D8G7uOn9SPQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">https://www.onsetcomp.com/products/data-loggers/mx1101</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">We have been using them for a long time and they are great. Small enough to monitor microclimates within cases as well as entire rooms.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
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Tel: </span><span lang="ET"><a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU">(785) 864-3863</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU"><br>
Fax: </span><span lang="ET"><a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU">(785) 864-5335</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU"> <br>
Email: </span><span lang="ET"><a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU">abentley@ku.edu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">ORCID: <span lang="ET"><a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-3093-1258&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C309067edd65f448915c808da0e366a12%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637837924273497772%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=plAg9Heqbk8SJaLga17z4Yj7itRlGwnJjXE1hIxvS2Q%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="background:white none repeat scroll 0% 0%">https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET"><a href="http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-AU">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <<span lang="ET"><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</span></a></span>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lennart Lennuk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 8, 2022 5:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <span lang="ET"><a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</span></a></span><br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Hi!<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">What do I need (internet cable, wifi, electricity) to install the loggers into collections?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Best regards!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Lennart Lennuk</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Head of collections</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span lang="ET" style="color:black">Estonian Museum of Natural History</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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