<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr">Hi Tonya,<div><br></div><div>We make frozen herps into ETOH specimens too. Since we get a majority of our herps from salvage, frozen is how most of our herps arrive at the museum. They turn out ok, and we can often take tissue samples out from them as well.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>Beth</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:46 PM Carol Spencer <<a href="mailto:atrox10@gmail.com">atrox10@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="auto">We make frozen herps into ethanol specimens all the time. They’re not as flexible as fresh ones but they still look fine and make good specimens. Unless you really need them as skeletons, you can prepare them as ethanol herps. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 9:26 PM Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace) <<a href="mailto:Tonya.Haff@csiro.au" target="_blank">Tonya.Haff@csiro.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have read (in John Simmon’s book on herpetological collecting, among other places) that frozen snake and lizard specimens do not make suitable formalin-preserved specimens, and should be instead skeletonised. We have quite a few herp
specimens in the freezer that we have been planning on prepping as ‘pickles’ (fixed in formalin and then stored in ETOH), but I haven’t started yet because of the concern that it may not be worthwhile. I wonder if any of you could weigh in on this and tell
me what your experiences have been, and whether or not you would bother preserving these specimens in spirit, or if we should just prep them as skeletons?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tonya<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dr. Tonya M. Haff<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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