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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you John.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Curtis Schmidt had been using PE pails with gamma seal lids for a number of years and put us on to that product.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We obtained white pails/buckets and the gamma seal lids from Uline in 2015.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#201F1E;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white">Michigan State University occupies the ancestral, traditional, and contemporary Lands of the Anishinaabeg–Three Fires Confederacy
of Ojibwe, Odawa, and Potawatomi peoples. The University resides on Land ceded in the 1819 Treaty of Saginaw.</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John E Simmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2022 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley@ku.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I agree with Andy, the Delta Design steel tanks are vastly superior to any others on the market.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I also second his choice for the "Gamma Seal lid" containers. Laura Abrazinskas has used these at the Michigan State University Museum for years with great success--they seal really
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Keep all polyethylene (usually stamped PE on the bottom) out of sunlight and interior UV sources (such as fluorescent lights), as exposure to UV will cause the PE to deteriorate
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">--John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Associate Curator of Collections<br>
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery<br>
Penn State University<br>
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Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia<br>
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:30 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Tonya<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We too use metal tanks from Delta Designs (we have found that they are superior to Steel Fixtures tanks) – see attached. They come in three sizes and can also be custom made to
pretty much any size. You may be able to shop these designs around in Australia to see if there is someone there who would make them for you. The drawback is that these are pretty expensive – as attached from some time ago. Steel prices and supply chain
issues have increased these I am sure.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As a cheaper alternative we have had some success with using these in the field and they are very sturdy and leak proof. We have shipped specimens back from the field in these
without issue. They too come in various sizes and have a gasketed lid and indentations for carrying -
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.chewy.com/gamma2-vittles-vault-pet-food-storage/dp/101384__;!!HXCxUKc!gVd05nNGIHWWSV16yO8Zv0cMWPO5Q85CoClIjRooRGVmHMFSgRUkd1xR1nMMv9ZN$" target="_blank">
https://www.chewy.com/gamma2-vittles-vault-pet-food-storage/dp/101384</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I would however warn you off these -
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.universityproducts.com/polycarbonate-storage-pails-for-wet-collections.html__;!!HXCxUKc!gVd05nNGIHWWSV16yO8Zv0cMWPO5Q85CoClIjRooRGVmHMFSgRUkd1xR1swFaX4D$" target="_blank">
https://www.universityproducts.com/polycarbonate-storage-pails-for-wet-collections.html</a>. Our herpetology division played around with these some and they are not alcohol safe – they crack over time and do not seal well at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hope that helps<o:p></o:p></p>
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Biodiversity Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
USA<br>
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Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" target="_blank">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" target="_blank">(785) 864-5335</a> <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu" target="_blank">abentley@ku.edu</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b> Nhcoll-l <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 11:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Hello all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">I am trying to figure out a nice solution for housing larger specimens. Right now we have them stored in either old canning jars (really rammed in, not great),
or in buckets (don’t seal properly and aren’t archival) or drums with rubber (?) gaskets (they seem to leak when you tip them, no matter how much they are tightened). I really want a good, leak-proof or at least minimising solution, and I feel I haven’t found
it yet. It’s really frustrating – the drums are even made for brewing, so you would think they would form a nice seal, but they don’t seem to. If any of you have a solution you like for housing medium to larger specimens (and I actually mean anything over
a 2L jar), or a solution for making gasketed drums work, I would love to hear it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Thank you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Tonya</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Dr. Tonya M. Haff</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Collection Manager</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU">Australian National Wildlife Collection</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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