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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dermestids is a good idea, but now we have no space and conditions to rear them. I dream to have sometime a Dermestid camera, but the things here aren´t in this way
now. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><br>
Sergio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">De:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Callomon,Paul <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>martes, 4 de octubre de 2022, 14:25<br>
<b>Para: </b>Simon Moore <couteaufin@btinternet.com>, Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
<b>CC: </b>NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>RE: [Nhcoll-l] Skulls and cleaning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dermestids? They work well with fish skeletons. Set them up in a lidded plastic box somewhere sheltered outside and let them at it.
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Paul Callomon<br>
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates<br>
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Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University<br>
1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br>
prc44@drexel.edu Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170<br>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Simon Moore<br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 6:49 AM<br>
To: Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
Cc: NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Skulls and cleaning<br>
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External.<br>
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Hi Sergio,<br>
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I used to use sodium carbonate (10%) in hot water, which worked quite well with a bit of scraping; try not to boil as that 'fixes' the flesh. There are other fleshing crystal products around but no-one will reveal their composition! They are gradually deliquescent
if that might give someone a clue as to their identity - they work even better.<br>
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With all good wishes, Simon<br>
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Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR<br>
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,<br>
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> On 4 Oct 2022, at 11:21, Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> We have a series of skulls from mammals and birds obtained directly from nature and all of them maintain remains of dry skin that are very difficult to remove.<br>
><br>
> We have try it with enzimatic digestion (using the Enzym Med 4 - 3%) and worked well with the bird skulls, but mammals are very strong to this mix. We can macerate them boiling in water, as usual, but it's a very complicate now in our lab and skulls aren't
particularly interesting.<br>
><br>
> Can anyone recommend something useful (and easy) to remove this skin in a usual protocol? Some chemical product, maybe?<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance!<br>
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> ********************************<br>
> Sergio Montagud Alario<br>
> Museu [UV] Història Natural<br>
> Universitat de València<br>
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