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We are hiring a full-time Assistant Collections Manager at the Denver Museum of Nature & Science to help catalog and organize a large collection of vertebrate fossils from Madagascar.</p>
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1. Job Posting-- AMNH Curatorial Associate Ichthyology<br>
(Scott A Schaefer)<br>
2. FW: Three positions at Drexel University and ANSP (Callomon,Paul)<br>
3. Re: Three positions at Drexel University and ANSP (ildiko szabo)<br>
4. drying cabinets for herbaria (Zhuang, Mingna)<br>
5. FW: Position at Drexel and ANSP: Update to incorrect link<br>
sent yesterday (Callomon,Paul)<br>
6. Fw: Kick-off Webinar & Discussion: The Need for a Specimen<br>
Management Plan Requirement (Adrain, Tiffany S)<br>
7. Putty For Sealing Jars (James Maclaine)<br>
8. Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Simon Moore)<br>
9. Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Callomon,Paul)<br>
10. Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Simon Moore)<br>
11. Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Robert Waller)<br>
12. Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Lazo-Wasem, Eric)<br>
13. Re: [External] Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Tacker, Christopher)<br>
14. Re: [External] Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Fabian Neisskenwirth)<br>
15. Re: Putty For Sealing Jars (Dirk Neumann)<br>
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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 15:18:50 +0000<br>
From: Scott A Schaefer <schaefer@amnh.org><br>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Job Posting-- AMNH Curatorial Associate<br>
Ichthyology<br>
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Dear List Members,<br>
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The Department of Ichthyology at the American Museum of Natural History (AMNH) seeks an outstanding colleague to join the department as the Curatorial Associate. The Curatorial Associate (CA) for Ichthyology is a Ph.D.-level ichthyologist (non-tenure track)
who leads and manages the support staff and curation operations for the largest and most rapidly growing of the Museum?s vertebrate collections. Reporting to the curator-in-charge, the CA works with the curators and museum specialists to manage the ichthyology
collection of Recent fishes of more than 3.2 million specimens, facilities, and operations inclusive of space, infrastructure, storage, equipment, collections management, databases, and informatics program. The CA will collaborate with a permanent staff of
three experienced full-time Museum Specialists and will oversee and facilitate departmental fieldwork, collecting, processing new acquisitions, loans, visitors, stewardship, pest management, annual reporting and compliance<br>
with federal permitting, wildlife transactions, and museum policy. The CA will work with the curators to seek external support for collections improvement, digitization of collections, fieldwork, research opportunities, and other initiatives as assigned.<br>
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The Museum seeks an individual with core expertise in zoological sciences, ichthyology research and/or previous collections management experience with fishes. While this is not a research position, opportunities to collaborate with curators and postdoctoral
scholars may be arranged outside of working hours.<br>
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Required Qualifications<br>
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* Ph.D. in zoological sciences.<br>
* Previous experience in systematics and the diversity of fishes.<br>
Preferred Qualifications<br>
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* Previous research experience in ichthyology and/or previous experience in management of museum collections of fishes.<br>
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Scott A. Schaefer, Ph.D.<br>
Dean of Science for Collections, Exhibitions, and the<br>
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Director, Institute for Comparative Genomics<br>
Curator and Professor<br>
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Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 19:49:01 +0000<br>
From: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Three positions at Drexel University and ANSP<br>
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We have two tenure-track positions at Drexel and one position for a database programmer at ANSP that might be of interest!<br>
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1) An endowed position for a Betz chair in ecology or environmental science <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcareers.drexel.edu%2Fen-us%2Fjob%2F500215&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129345455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=INRAF3HcLogCzVDMiPHQMxzgxSc3mGRV1%2BhEEN8w%2BnE%3D&reserved=0">
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This would be at the Associate Professor level or higher, with start date fall 2023 or 2024.<br>
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2) A junior tenure-track position in ecology <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcareers.drexel.edu%2Fen-us%2Fjob%2F500109%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129345455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gafPR5EqQTsMXSLA4HU8DdWkUnkfpvxlLUkLVKPBEU0%3D&reserved=0">
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start date fall 2023<br>
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starting as soon as feasible.<br>
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Best wishes,<br>
Gary<br>
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Gary Rosenberg, Ph.D.<br>
Pilsbry Chair of Malacology<br>
Academy of Natural Sciences and<br>
Department of Biodiversity, Earth and Environmental Science<br>
Drexel University<br>
1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway<br>
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1195 USA<br>
<br>
Phone: 215-299-1033, Fax: 215-299-1170<br>
Email: rosenberg.ansp@drexel.edu<mailto:rosenberg.ansp@drexel.edu><br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 12:10:05 -0800<br>
From: ildiko szabo <ildiko@zoology.ubc.ca><br>
To: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
Cc: "NH-COLL listserv (nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu)"<br>
<nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Three positions at Drexel University and ANSP<br>
Message-ID: <0B20080D-76C0-4572-9612-814732D32383@zoology.ubc.ca><br>
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you?ll love the mess in the lab? so very eggy!!<br>
My bad too for not remembering<br>
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> On Jan 9, 2023, at 11:49 AM, Callomon,Paul <prc44@drexel.edu> wrote:<br>
><br>
> [CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]<br>
> We have two tenure-track positions at Drexel and one position for a database programmer at ANSP that might be of interest!<br>
><br>
> 1) An endowed position for a Betz chair in ecology or environmental science <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcareers.drexel.edu%2Fen-us%2Fjob%2F500215&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129345455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=INRAF3HcLogCzVDMiPHQMxzgxSc3mGRV1%2BhEEN8w%2BnE%3D&reserved=0">
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This would be at the Associate Professor level or higher, with start date fall 2023 or 2024.<br>
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> 2) A junior tenure-track position in ecology <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcareers.drexel.edu%2Fen-us%2Fjob%2F500109%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129345455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gafPR5EqQTsMXSLA4HU8DdWkUnkfpvxlLUkLVKPBEU0%3D&reserved=0">
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start date fall 2023<br>
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> 3) A database manager for the biodiversity collections at ANSP <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcareers.drexel.edu%2Fen-us%2Fjob%2F500030%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129345455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DjxEFTM9Sh%2F92ItnJ9U8wXrT6Dv4VTfXPQylrN6bXkU%3D&reserved=0">
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starting as soon as feasible.<br>
><br>
> Best wishes,<br>
> Gary<br>
><br>
> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""<br>
> Gary Rosenberg, Ph.D.<br>
> Pilsbry Chair of Malacology<br>
> Academy of Natural Sciences and<br>
> Department of Biodiversity, Earth and Environmental Science<br>
> Drexel University<br>
> 1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway<br>
> Philadelphia, PA 19103-1195 USA<br>
><br>
> Phone: 215-299-1033, Fax: 215-299-1170<br>
> Email: rosenberg.ansp@drexel.edu <<a href="mailto:rosenberg.ansp@drexel.edu">mailto:rosenberg.ansp@drexel.edu</a>><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2023 23:04:49 +0000<br>
From: "Zhuang, Mingna" <mzhuang@utep.edu><br>
To: "nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] drying cabinets for herbaria<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
Does anyone have a recommendation for a or favorite drying cabinet for plant specimens? We're thinking about getting one if we have extra funds somewhere, especially if we decide to start collecting more cacti in the future.<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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Vicky (Mingna) Zhuang PhD.<br>
Biodiversity Collections Manager<br>
UTEP Biodiversity Collections<br>
B209 Biology Building<br>
University of Texas at El Paso<br>
500 W University Avenue<br>
El Paso, TX 79968<br>
phone: 915-747-5479<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 18:00:07 +0000<br>
From: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
To: "NH-COLL listserv (nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu)"<br>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Position at Drexel and ANSP: Update to<br>
incorrect link sent yesterday<br>
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We have two tenure-track positions at Drexel and one position for a database programmer at ANSP that might be of interest. None of these requires that someone work on mollusks, but there is ample opportunity.<br>
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1) An endowed position for a Betz chair in ecology or environmental science <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcareers.drexel.edu%2Fen-us%2Fjob%2F500215&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129501235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=uJfcS8Pua0UwaUOhyCCQL%2BQEyD1cOW%2F%2BGVNj7XF1ouY%3D&reserved=0">
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This would be at the Associate Professor level or higher, with start date fall 2023 or 2024.<br>
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Gary<br>
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Pilsbry Chair of Malacology<br>
Academy of Natural Sciences and<br>
Department of Biodiversity, Earth and Environmental Science<br>
Drexel University<br>
1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway<br>
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1195 USA<br>
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Phone: 215-299-1033, Fax: 215-299-1170<br>
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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 20:48:08 +0000<br>
From: "Adrain, Tiffany S" <tiffany-adrain@uiowa.edu><br>
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Kick-off Webinar & Discussion:<br>
The Need for a Specimen Management Plan Requirement<br>
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Please join representatives from the Biodiversity Collections Network (BCoN) and the U.S. Culture Collection Network (USCCN) for a joint webinar discussion on the need for a Specimen Management Plan requirement in research proposals that generate living or
preserved specimens. Recommended by the National Academies? report on biological collections in 2020, this requirement is now supported by the recently enacted CHIPS and Science Act. Join us for a discussion about the elements of a specimen management plan
and its benefits to various stakeholder communities.<br>
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Location: Online via Zoom (The program will be recorded)<br>
Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2023<br>
Time: 2:00 PM - 3:00 PM ET<br>
Hosted by: American Institute of Biological Sciences & Natural Science Collections Alliance<br>
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* BCoN & USCCN. November 2022. Specimen Management Plan Draft Proposal.<<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnscalliance.us3.list-manage.com%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3D95a09b1507e3dcc0866293235%26id%3D050d653d77%26e%3D0275a4f8a1&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129501235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BmE2bd0YMpEv4sLclnfvXtciq%2B8VZRAYZLrOx8VKyE0%3D&reserved=0">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnscalliance.us3.list-manage.com%2Ftrack%2Fclick%3Fu%3D95a09b1507e3dcc0866293235%26id%3D050d653d77%26e%3D0275a4f8a1&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129501235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BmE2bd0YMpEv4sLclnfvXtciq%2B8VZRAYZLrOx8VKyE0%3D&reserved=0</a>><br>
* National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2020. Biological Collections: Ensuring Critical Research and Education for the 21st Century. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press.
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* O?Brien KM, et al. The time is right for an Antarctic biorepository network. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2022 Dec 13;119(50):e2212800119.
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 12:09:18 +0000<br>
From: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk><br>
To: "nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn't an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
<br>
However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way of
sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don't suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
<br>
As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I'd like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
James<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:09:13 +0000<br>
From: Simon Moore <couteaufin@btinternet.com><br>
To: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk><br>
Cc: NHCOLL-new <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Hi James,<br>
<br>
I have two main sealants, then older gelatine sealant was found in an old NHM Day Book back in the 1880s and it still works well and is easily reversible. Write to me if you want the recipe and technique.<br>
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The other is a silicone which is very effective and long-lasting but is difficult to reverse. So, if the jars are for long0-term storage only then the silicone might be the answer, else if they?re being looked at by scientific visitors then I would suggest
the gelatine.<br>
<br>
With all good wishes, Simon<br>
<br>
Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR<br>
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,<br>
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> On 11 Jan 2023, at 12:09, James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> Happy New Year!<br>
><br>
> Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn?t an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
><br>
> However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way
of sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don?t suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
><br>
> As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I?d like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
><br>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> James<br>
><br>
><br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:34:52 +0000<br>
From: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
To: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk>, "nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"<br>
<nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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To seal ground-glass stoppers and plate-type lids (such as Whittall-Tatum jars that lack a gasket) I use dielectric grease (Dow-Corning #4 Compound). This is a non-setting clear grease with a silicone filler that does not, as far as I have been able to tell,
contaminate fluids. You can see the tech data sheet at<br>
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Be aware that if you use regular silicone caulk on older soda glass it seals very well but can be pretty difficult to release. It works best on flat flange-to-face joints, where its good gap-bridging qualities are important, but if you use it on a tapered ground-glass
stopper you'll likely never be able to open it again.<br>
<br>
<br>
Paul Callomon<br>
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates<br>
________________________________<br>
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1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of James Maclaine<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:09 AM<br>
To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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<br>
External.<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn't an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
<br>
However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way of
sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don't suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
<br>
As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I'd like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
James<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:27:07 +0000<br>
From: Simon Moore <couteaufin@btinternet.com><br>
To: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44@drexel.edu><br>
Cc: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk>, NHCOLL-new<br>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Thanks Paul and yes, the silicone makes the lid difficult to remove! The only reversing agents I have found this far are organo-chlorine solvents, di-methyl chloride and tricholoromethane aka chloroform! Otherwise I use a star spatula and cut around the seal
but it?s hard work!<br>
<br>
With all good wishes, Simon<br>
<br>
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> On 11 Jan 2023, at 13:34, Callomon,Paul <prc44@drexel.edu> wrote:<br>
><br>
> To seal ground-glass stoppers and plate-type lids (such as Whittall-Tatum jars that lack a gasket) I use dielectric grease (Dow-Corning #4 Compound). This is a non-setting clear grease with a silicone filler that does not, as far as I have been able to tell,
contaminate fluids. You can see the tech data sheet at<br>
> <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aircraftspruce.com%2Fcatalog%2Fcspages%2Fdc4.php&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QEmKyewO08CJ4foDpkSWKEQrS5cSGUqRSAk0N6Hvof4%3D&reserved=0">
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> Be aware that if you use regular silicone caulk on older soda glass it seals very well but can be pretty difficult to release. It works best on flat flange-to-face joints, where its good gap-bridging qualities are important, but if you use it on a tapered
ground-glass stopper you?ll likely never be able to open it again.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Paul Callomon<br>
> Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates<br>
> Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University<br>
> 1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA<br>
> prc44@drexel.edu Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of James Maclaine<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:09 AM<br>
> To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
><br>
> External.<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> Happy New Year!<br>
><br>
> Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn?t an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
><br>
> However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way
of sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don?t suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
><br>
> As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I?d like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
><br>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> James<br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:32:06 +0000<br>
From: Robert Waller <rw@protectheritage.com><br>
To: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk>, "nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"<br>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Hi James,<br>
Not a complete answer, but something you might want to check on. Your mineralogy or geology prep labs might have equipment for grinding perfectly flat surfaces (for them, in advance of polishing). If so, they could quickly and easily grind your jar tops flat
for you. If they don't have the equipment then they may be able to point you to someone who does. A vibrating lap (<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkingsleynorth.com%2F16-inch-covington-vibrating-lap.html&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Cyi39rkJ1EpsdDc5TOoozldDnMgQB73NaX1TUGJxI28%3D&reserved=0">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkingsleynorth.com%2F16-inch-covington-vibrating-lap.html&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Cyi39rkJ1EpsdDc5TOoozldDnMgQB73NaX1TUGJxI28%3D&reserved=0</a>)
might be ideal but even a rotating flat lap (<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farrowheadlapidarysupply.com%2Fproducts%2F18-rotating-disc-flat-lap-model-18rl%2F2695%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gewI6i7qE%2FE0msGg2F4degAvZpFtm6kJRAffYm2rQeM%3D&reserved=0)<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farrowheadlapidarysupply.com%2Fproducts%2F18-rotating-disc-flat-lap-model-18rl%2F2695%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gewI6i7qE%2FE0msGg2F4degAvZpFtm6kJRAffYm2rQeM%3D&reserved=0)%20would">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farrowheadlapidarysupply.com%2Fproducts%2F18-rotating-disc-flat-lap-model-18rl%2F2695%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gewI6i7qE%2FE0msGg2F4degAvZpFtm6kJRAffYm2rQeM%3D&reserved=0)<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farrowheadlapidarysupply.com%2Fproducts%2F18-rotating-disc-flat-lap-model-18rl%2F2695%2F&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gewI6i7qE%2FE0msGg2F4degAvZpFtm6kJRAffYm2rQeM%3D&reserved=0)%20would</a>>
would serve.<br>
Whatever you choose to seal with, the a perfectly flat jar top is certain to improve the seal.<br>
Rob<br>
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of James Maclaine<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:09 AM<br>
To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn't an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
<br>
However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way of
sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don't suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
<br>
As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I'd like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:43:57 +0000<br>
From: "Lazo-Wasem, Eric" <eric.lazo-wasem@yale.edu><br>
To: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk>, "nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"<br>
<nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
As typical, I do not often fall into the "best practices" category, but do have 40 years' experience with fluid jars and this sort of situation.<br>
<br>
I agree that with ground glass non-setting clear grease works well. However, I have also used pure silicone to seal flat lids onto flat ground jars (can be flattened manually as a touch up with wet/dry sandpaper and a bit of effort) for exhibits; even with
warm lights there is no evaporative loss of fluid. To remove the lid after many years, a razor blade will get most of the silicone off, and final cleaning can be done with mineral oil followed by soap and water. I have jars sealed back in 2004 for an exhibit
that are still completely intact; one contains a 1 m section of giant squid gladius and this demonstrates the technique can be applied to large, as well as small, jars.<br>
<br>
Eric LW<br>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of James Maclaine<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:09 AM<br>
To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Dear all,<br>
<br>
Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn't an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
<br>
However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way of
sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don't suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
<br>
As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I'd like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 15:45:38 +0000<br>
From: "Tacker, Christopher" <christopher.tacker@naturalsciences.org><br>
To: Robert Waller <rw@protectheritage.com>, James Maclaine<br>
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If you choose to grind them flat, the quickest and most aggressive way to do it is 120 grit on a glass plate. I even got lucky at the glass business - they had unclaimed thick glass that they just gave me. This is also fairly cheap in terms of supplies and
time.<br>
<br>
You could even get some wet/dry sandpaper at a hardware store.<br>
<br>
Chris Tacker, Ph.D., P.G.<br>
Research Curator of Geology<br>
North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences<br>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 10:32:06 AM<br>
To: James Maclaine <j.maclaine@nhm.ac.uk>; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: [External] Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Hi James,<br>
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Not a complete answer, but something you might want to check on. Your mineralogy or geology prep labs might have equipment for grinding perfectly flat surfaces (for them, in advance of polishing). If so, they could quickly and easily grind your jar tops flat
for you. If they don?t have the equipment then they may be able to point you to someone who does. A vibrating lap (<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkingsleynorth.com%2F16-inch-covington-vibrating-lap.html&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Cyi39rkJ1EpsdDc5TOoozldDnMgQB73NaX1TUGJxI28%3D&reserved=0<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kingsleynorth.com/16-inch-covington-vibrating-lap.html__;!!HYmSToo!cYC3fw02i6vOpwFSOFOihSZnnAskFr7aSQRQFKPe4wTf_bXCK9J9zyEa81-x2ZLzL2MyX_FWil_yAo8GUzjBjquo0p_uSA$">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkingsleynorth.com%2F16-inch-covington-vibrating-lap.html&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Cyi39rkJ1EpsdDc5TOoozldDnMgQB73NaX1TUGJxI28%3D&reserved=0<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://kingsleynorth.com/16-inch-covington-vibrating-lap.html__;!!HYmSToo!cYC3fw02i6vOpwFSOFOihSZnnAskFr7aSQRQFKPe4wTf_bXCK9J9zyEa81-x2ZLzL2MyX_FWil_yAo8GUzjBjquo0p_uSA$</a>>)
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Whatever you choose to seal with, the a perfectly flat jar top is certain to improve the seal.<br>
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Rob<br>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of James Maclaine<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:09 AM<br>
To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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<br>
<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn?t an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way of
sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don?t suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I?d like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
James<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:57:17 +0100<br>
From: Fabian Neisskenwirth <info@naturhistorische-konservierung.de><br>
To: nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] [External] Re: Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Dear James,<br>
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to add to Robs very good advice and Chis recommendation of the<br>
glassplate. I recommend you to use a float glass plate (at least 4mm<br>
thick) and pour some carborundum (SiC) in 80 & 180 grit, here is a<br>
austrian supplier:<br>
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<br>
To start to get all flattened you use the 80 grade and then go to the<br>
180. This has the advantage that you will have full control of the jar,<br>
since you will be grinding it mechanically with your hands and not with<br>
a machine. I have had the bad experience in the past, that the lap disc<br>
literally took the jar out of my hand and crushed into pieces. It's way<br>
more work and time consuming, but if you have a steady hand, you will<br>
get at least 1-3 mm grinded down without a problem.<br>
You cant use the float glass for more than 4-5 jars, since it will get<br>
uneven wile grinding it down.<br>
<br>
As a seal I recommend you to use a beeswax/colophony mix (4:1) and to<br>
head the lid at 120?C in an oven. By this you will get a slight vacuum<br>
in the jar which seals it perfectly and inhibits oxidation. It was used<br>
by the old teaching aid manufacturers back in 1890's and its a great<br>
barrier for ethanol. Silicone will fail since its permeable to ethanol<br>
with the years.<br>
<br>
The only thing is that doing this requires some kind of practice, so<br>
start with some tiny test jars and the go up the scale, grinding and<br>
sealing big jars is a hard task. And use new lids of at least 4 mm<br>
thickness too, these have to be grinded too of course.<br>
<br>
If all fails, there is a putty called "Terostat IX":<br>
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This can be used with warm lids, so you still get the effect of the<br>
slight vacuum. Its not tested for longevity, but some colleagues have<br>
had no issues since the last 20 years. But its no conservation product,<br>
so just to get this clear ;>)<br>
<br>
<br>
All the best wishes from Switzerland,<br>
<br>
Am 11.01.23 um 16:45 schrieb Tacker, Christopher:<br>
> If you choose to grind them flat, the quickest and most aggressive way<br>
> to do it is 120 grit on a glass plate. I even got lucky at the glass<br>
> business - they had unclaimed thick glass that they just gave me. This<br>
> is also fairly cheap in terms of supplies and time.<br>
><br>
> You could even get some wet/dry sandpaper at a hardware store.<br>
><br>
> Chris Tacker, Ph.D., P.G.<br>
> Research Curator of Geology<br>
> North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences<br>
> 11 West Jones St. | Raleigh, NC? 27601<br>
><br>
> Emails to and from this address are subject to NC Public Records Law<br>
> and may be disclosed to third parties.<br>
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> Robert Waller <rw@protectheritage.com><br>
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> Hi James,<br>
><br>
> Not a complete answer, but something you might want to check on. Your<br>
> mineralogy or geology prep labs might have equipment for grinding<br>
> perfectly flat surfaces (for them, in advance of polishing). If so,<br>
> they could quickly and easily grind your jar tops flat for you. If<br>
> they don?t have the equipment then they may be able to point you to<br>
> someone who does. A vibrating lap<br>
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> might be ideal but even a rotating flat lap<br>
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> would serve.<br>
><br>
> Whatever you choose to seal with, the a perfectly flat jar top is<br>
> certain to improve the seal.<br>
><br>
> Rob<br>
><br>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of<br>
> *James Maclaine<br>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:09 AM<br>
> *To:* nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> Happy New Year!<br>
><br>
> Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question.? In the past<br>
> we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass<br>
> plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers.? This<br>
> was especially useful in the case of some of the older jars where the<br>
> top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. ?It<br>
> isn?t an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore)<br>
> and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole<br>
> it has fairly effectively slowed down evaporation over several decades.<br>
><br>
> However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no<br>
> longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me<br>
> where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use<br>
> for this? ?Or ideally, let me know of a better way of sealing a flat<br>
> lid on an uneven jar top (please don?t suggest stretching parafilm<br>
> over it!).<br>
><br>
> As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to<br>
> find alternative storage for (see attached), I?d like to keep using<br>
> them if possible.? They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
><br>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
><br>
> James<br>
><br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 20:07:34 +0100<br>
From: Dirk Neumann <d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de><br>
To: <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Putty For Sealing Jars<br>
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Hi James,<br>
<br>
happy new year to South Kensington!<br>
<br>
My recommendation is Alsirol; Fisher Scientific is listing it <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fishersci.de%2Fshop%2Fproducts%2Fjoint-grease-1%2F10130201&data=05%7C01%7Clecompte%40flmnh.ufl.edu%7C2102470de3c94a7fc05d08daf407388d%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C0%7C638090609129657448%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=t6JQiFVHdzHx8cqRRgGZGIMVLDNOFZS3mfj%2FZ70BRKM%3D&reserved=0">
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<br>
Very greasy joint grease that works very well on uneven historic cylinders and even battery jars. Easy to remove, easy to reapply. Very stable in the long run.<br>
<br>
Application on Figure 19d in our fluid book; second screen shot shows how the grease can be build up on uneven surfaces (battery jar).<br>
<br>
Hope this helps - more offline, if you like<br>
Dirk<br>
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Am 11.01.2023 um 13:09 schrieb James Maclaine:<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
Happy New Year!<br>
<br>
Hope someone can help with a large jar sealing question. In the past we have used a kind of putty (made by Arboseal) to seal flat glass plates to the top of some of our largest jars and containers. This was especially useful in the case of some of the older
jars where the top is not completely flat and the putty could fill in the gaps. It isn?t an ideal solution (and makes opening the jar a bit of a chore) and in some cases the putty has hardened and cracked but on the whole it has fairly effectively slowed
down evaporation over several decades.<br>
<br>
However, in the cases where the old putty has to be replaced I can no longer find the same brand for sale online, so can anyone tell me where I can purchase something similar and reliable that I could use for this? Or ideally, let me know of a better way of
sealing a flat lid on an uneven jar top (please don?t suggest stretching parafilm over it!).<br>
<br>
As these are large containers for specimens that would be difficult to find alternative storage for (see attached), I?d like to keep using them if possible. They would also be prohibitively expensive to replace.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
James<br>
<br>
<br>
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