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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">Thank you very much for your answers!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">Mike, Simon, it's a very great idea the Featherbase project. We can try with these exemplars the setting of their feathers as this web shows. Only a little problem is that the
animal is so dirty and feathers must be cleaned individually. Other idea is the skull. Maybe other parts of the skeleton could preserve, as legs or wings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">That's OK. For birds, skull and feathers. For mammals, only skull. More ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">Paul, it's true, time is gold. Maybe these operations could be submitted to our practices students.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">Kairo, we can't donate them for didactic activities, because sure all of them have arsenic compounds in the skin and overall, it's not a pleasant to show these dirty and "pathetic"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">And Dirk, thanks for your advice. All these material comes to our Museum by legal donations and most of them through the public administratios that roles in the application
of law. For them, we are a celestial place where deposite and forgot all these things!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">Thanks to all for your help!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%">Sergio<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%;color:black">Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu> en nombre de Dirk Neumann <d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>miércoles, 25 de enero de 2023, 14:29<br>
<b>Para: </b>nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Horrible ;-) taxidermized birds and mammals</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:106%;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm">Commenting on the odd part, from a legal perspective in Europe you are not allowed to take and own them anyway because of the existing prohibitions in the
<a href="https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/DE/ALL/?uri=celex%3A31997R0338">
Council Regulation EU 338/9</a>7 of the Eu and likely the subsequent national implementation in Spain. This might be worth checking.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One of the exemptions I know is if Hunters or their heirs bequest such materials to an Institution, because they can legally take and own specimens from the wild (as they are privileged to do so under the EU hunting laws).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Moreover, most bird species in the EU are highly protected under the Bird Directive of the EU. Therefore, it would be highly recommended to have the transfer and the status of the material being clarified, before the material is transferred
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you would keep only part of it, it would be advisable to record which specimens were discarded and having a proof where they ended up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">With best wishes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dirk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 25.01.2023 um 13:19 schrieb Sergio Montagud:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello everyone, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Last week we received some items of taxidermized birds and mammals in a very bad condition. Not only they are bad preserved, with dust and feather/hair fallen, also they have no data about origin, date or taxidermist.
There are not interesting species, all are common except five or six that could be considered as rare.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This type of donations is frequent because most people are received now properties of their families that traditionally have these kinds of pieces.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I would ask you if anyone have experienced with these sorts of exx. and try to reuse in other terms. I want to say if they take them, extract the skull, and discard the rest or something like these. Ideas and experiences
are welcome. Evidently, invest time to recover these is not considered.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Thanks a lot</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Sergio</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">********************************</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Sergio Montagud Alario</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Museu [UV] Història Natural</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Universitat de València</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">e-mail: <a href="mailto:sergio.montagud@uv.es">
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