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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks to everyone who weighed in on this topic, I really appreciate it and it has spawned a couple of really interesting practical and philosophical threads that have given me a lot to think about
in terms of the ways that we store our spirit collection. May I just ask, Dean, about you all storing jars upside down (!!!)? I haven’t heard of this before, and it made me do a couple of double takes I must admit. Is the reasoning that, when upside down,
there is no pressure on lids and seals? And I wonder if that doesn’t make your jars very wobbly? Anyway I am intrigued.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks again everyone!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Tonya<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hendrickson Dean<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 16 February 2023 5:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Shelf depth for EtOH jar collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I presented a talk at SPNHC in 2022 that discussed the extreme space crunch that forced us to convert a now sizeable portion of our fish collection from the classical taxonomy-ordered shelving to a much more compact and
(we find in many ways) more efficient shelving system based on jar-size- and catalog-number. We’re very happy with the results so far, and coincidentally our legacy, second-hand library shelving enabled a handy solution to John’s point 1 – it takes us mere
seconds to reliably monitor our fluid levels across an entire shelf full of upside-down jars. We still consider this experimental, but now have 4-5 years with many hundreds of jars in the test and still no sign of leaks. Mind you, these are all recently acquired
and processed specimens, so new lids, liners, etc. More details are in the powerpoint and video of the presentation archived as Cohen, A. E., Hendrickson, D. A., & Casarez, M. J. (2022). Testing An Alternative Shelving Arrangement to Optimize Space and Task
Efficiency in a Fluid Fish Collection. <a href="https://hdl.handle.net/2152/117476">
https://hdl.handle.net/2152/117476</a> (the shelf-jiggling fluid level monitoring is demonstrated at the end of the presentation).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dean<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.fishesoftexas.org/home/" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC;background:white;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="96" height="52" style="width:1.0in;height:.5416in" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.gif@01D9450F.4CD39160" alt="Fishes of Texas "></span></a><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#222222;background:white">Dean
A. Hendrickson</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#222222;background:white">, Ph.D. (he/him/his)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#222222">Curator of Ichthyology, <a href="https://biodiversity.utexas.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">Biodiversity Center</span></a>, <a href="https://www.utexas.edu/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">University
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#222222">Austin, Texas 78758 USA +1-512-656-9504 (cel.); <a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0001-7835-0295" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">Orcid</span></a> / <a href="https://sites.cns.utexas.edu/hendricksonlab/home" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">lab</span></a> / <a href="https://integrativebio.utexas.edu/biodiversity-collections/collections/ichthyology-fish" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">collection</span></a> / <a href="https://utexas.zoom.us/j/7165800443" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">zoom</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John E Simmons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de">d.neumann@leibniz-lib.de</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Shelf depth for EtOH jar collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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not a positive. Yes, it saves a bit of space, but what is sacrificed is the ability to monitor the condition of the containers and specimens. The ideal arrangement would be shelves with only one row of jars because with that arrangement specimens and fluid
level and color could immediately be seen, enabling the correction of developing problems, particularly loss of fluid. However, shelving with just one row of jars is not practical, so the question becomes how many rows of jars is practical? With two or more
rows the jars in front must be moved to see the jars in back, which takes additional time and also, each time a jar is picked up and moved, it increases the risk of either compromising the container seal or getting the containers out of order. With deep shelves,
so that the containers are several rows deep, the time spent monitoring the collection (checking for problems) increases enormously. In my experience, the time (and therefore the cost) of monitoring collections is rarely considered when planning collection
storage, which is foolish. A fluid collection needs to be inspected regularly to avoid problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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do is simply re-create the linear <i>scala naturae</i> of Aristotle, using scientific names. The arguments that this allows for better exploration of the collection, etc., are silly. And as Paul points out, containers should not be opened in the collection
storage room to examine specimens. Systematic arrangements made sense when collections were smaller, space was available, and scientific names were more stable. In a world of rapidly changing systematic arrangements, we should make good use of electronic databases
to both bear the current name of species and to serve as a finding aid for containers, and arrange storage to efficiently store specimens in a stable environment on storage furniture designed to accommodate efficient monitoring of specimens and containers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">we recommend in our <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.universityproducts.com%2Fbest-practices-in-the-preservation-and-management.html&data=05%7C01%7C%7Ca2f1c5d22f6f4309555708db0f6eca88%7C31d7e2a5bdd8414e9e97bea998ebdfe1%7C0%7C0%7C638120740753119426%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=31cnDUwlkn1HxvWgHtYLmRAeYliJiJ%2FsbQQo9odGyZI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
book</a> (p. 94) to prefer 300 mm deep shelves. You can do deeper shelves (in Munich we had 450 mm), but this doesn't save space, as you cannot place more large jars on such such shelves.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Usually, large glass cylinders are rarely deeper than 300 mm. If there are larger containers, it might be worth considering 1 isle with deeper shelves (e.g., 450 mm) for these jars, or to arrange all large jars on special
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">If you choose 440 mm deep shelves for the entire collection, you increase the required staff time for monitoring and maintenance, because usually the number of small jars is much higher, and there is a tendency that small
jars are crowding on deeper shelves as the offer more space. Visual inspection of such densely packed shelves however needs more time. If staff time is a critical variable, 300 mm would be preferable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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as it would be for a 300 mm deep shelf, the risk to knock other jars is higher.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">We are getting down to the pointy bit of having to confirm the desired depth of shelving for our new ethanol vault storage. Right now our shelves are only about
300mm deep, which is really not deep enough for some larger containers. We have specified 440mm deep shelving for the new space, but before pushing ‘go’ I thought I would ask if any of you have thoughts or very strong opinions about optimal shelf depth for
storing jars of various sizes and smaller drums.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks in advance for your input!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span lang="EN-US">mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-US">natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><b><span lang="EN-US">Dirk Neumann</span></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">Collection Manager, Hamburg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">Leibniz Institute for the Analysis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Stiftung Leibniz-Institut zur Analyse des Biodiversitätswandels<br>
Postanschrift: Adenauerallee 127, 53113 Bonn, Germany<br>
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Stiftung des öffentlichen Rechts;<br>
Generaldirektion: Prof. Dr. Bernhard Misof (Generaldirektor), Adrian Grüter (Kaufm. Geschäftsführer)<br>
Sitz der Stiftung: Adenauerallee 160 in Bonn<br>
Vorsitzender des Stiftungsrates: Dr. Michael Wappelhorst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Stiftung Leibniz-Institut zur Analyse des Biodiversitätswandels<br>
Postanschrift: Adenauerallee 127, 53113 Bonn, Germany<br>
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Stiftung des öffentlichen Rechts;<br>
Generaldirektion: Prof. Dr. Bernhard Misof (Generaldirektor), Adrian Grüter (Kaufm. Geschäftsführer)<br>
Sitz der Stiftung: Adenauerallee 160 in Bonn<br>
Vorsitzender des Stiftungsrates: Dr. Michael Wappelhorst<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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