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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Thank you, Douglas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">I don’t know how we can investigate it, because only the smell exists, no liquids. Probably we need to detect vaporous substances.. too many difficults.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">As always occurs, sure our creosote comes from the coal-derived, so we must to consider it dangerous. Also the smell is so powerfull and all investigators that works with these boxes, go to their homes with the clothes
with that smell that last during days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Maybe, we can think to destroy these boxes...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Thanks for writting!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES-TRAD">Sergio</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">De:
</span></b><span style="color:black">Douglas Yanega <dyanega@gmail.com><br>
<b>Fecha: </b>martes, 21 de febrero de 2023, 17:44<br>
<b>Para: </b>Sergio Montagud <sergio.montagud@gmail.com><br>
<b>Asunto: </b>Re: [Nhcoll-l] Entomological (and dangerous) collections</span><span style="color:black;mso-fareast-language:ES-TRAD"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/20/23 4:24 AM, Sergio Montagud wrote:<span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is a special question for entomologist curators. We have a large collection of insects (Coleoptera and Hymenoptera, mainly) in a standar small entomological boxes (26 x 19 cm). These type of boxes is half of the
standard entomological box and was used extensively in the beginner of XX siegle.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">But the preservation chemical that was used is creosote and all the box have a smell so strong. Due to the toxic and dangerous that is the creosote, we will go to change the insects in a new boxes, althoug the same insects
could maintain the same smelt.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">But the original boxes, with the toxic smell, we don't know what to do. They could be interesting because are ancient and historic. Some of them are labelled with original writting of the entomologist. In other case,
without dangerous creosote, all of them would be preserved safely. But now...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">What do you recommend? Anyone knows a safe method to preserve these boxes? Or maybe, like scince-fiction, one method to extract all vaporous creosote from the wood.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Sergio:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>There are two very different types of creosote, one of which (coal-derived) is clearly toxic, the other (wood-derived) is not (or much less so). I know this because we had a bottle in our entomological museum here of the latter (wood-based), and I had to
research it when filling out our hazmat paperwork. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>It is fairly important to establish which of these two is involved, and I am not sure how to determine which one is which unless one has the labeled container, as we did. There may be a chemical test that can distinguish them.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Peace,<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology Entomology Research Museum<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314 skype: dyanega<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <a href="https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html">https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> "There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82<o:p></o:p></pre>
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