<div dir="ltr"><div>How long did you leave them at -25C? Duration may be the issue. Cycling through freeze/thaw may actually allow larvae or pupae to better survive, but 14-21 days at -20C should be sufficient to kill all stages of <i>Tineola</i>. Also take into account how long it may take for the interior of the object to reach -20, so your clock shouldn't start until the interior is at temp. I don't know whether or not freezing is good for baleen though.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Chris<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:"Palatino Linotype";font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,120,122);font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Christopher C. 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CONROY <<a href="mailto:ondatra@berkeley.edu">ondatra@berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear list,<br> Three years ago we found clothes moths, <i>Tineola</i> <i>bisselliella</i>, living and reproducing in 2 1-ft square pieces of dried baleen from a <i>Megaptera novaeangliae</i>, Humpback whale. We cleaned it up, bagged it, and froze and thawed it a few times at -25C. Then the pandemic. Unfortunately, the moths have returned, presumably from not being killed by several freeze-thaw cycles. Use of tools and compressed air is not going to be sufficient to remove all the moths since they are deep within the plates.<br><h1 style="box-sizing:border-box;margin:0.67em 0px;font-family:Georgia,sans-serif;font-weight:400;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></h1><div> Does anyone have suggestions for effectively treating these items to destroy the moths, but also not damage the baleen too much? Has anyone seen moths feeding on baleen in museums before?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance for your ideas,</div><div><br></div><div>Chris Conroy</div><div>Museum of Vertebrate Zoology</div><div>UC Berkeley</div></div>
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