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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">As far as I am aware there is no one who produces glass jars larger than a 1 gallon jar on a commercial basis any longer unless you have the budget to afford the borosilicate jars that are used in European
collections. The closest I have found out there are these 2.5 gallon “barrels” -
<a href="https://www.katom.com/075-85679.html">https://www.katom.com/075-85679.html</a> produced by Anchor Hocking. Not sure what the lid size is (maybe 120mm) or whether you can find replacements as you will want to get rid of the metal lids they come with.
At almost $30 per jar, they are not cheap but may do the job. There are other vendors who supply similar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Some collections have also been toying with using these polycarbonate pails from University Products -
<a href="https://www.universityproducts.com/polycarbonate-storage-pails-for-wet-collections.html">
https://www.universityproducts.com/polycarbonate-storage-pails-for-wet-collections.html</a> - but they do not have gaskets, do not seal well and are prone to failure when used with alcohol.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">We have been using stainless steel tanks from Delta in all of our vertebrate collections for many years now and have never had pushback from our fire marshal about their use in our collection storage facility.
I would be interested in knowing what the justification or worry is with requiring secondary containment of these tanks. They are much less likely to fail than a large glass jug!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hope that helps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
Ichthyology Collection Manager/Specify Usability Lead<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Natural History Museum & Biodiversity Research Center<br>
Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7593<br>
USA<br>
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Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris R Feldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 26, 2023 3:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] 2 or 3 gallon jars?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello NHCOLL-L—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I need to transfer some older fish specimens into new containers. Many are in buckets or old 3 gallon glass jars with leaky lids. They will not fit in 1 gallon jars, and I’m not sure I can put them all in
tanks. Are there good 2 or 3 gallon glass jars still available? Please advise,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks much!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">P.S. I am also getting push back from EH&S that my tanks of large fish and herps need to be in secondary containers. I don’t see how this is feasible (or reasonable). If anyone has been able to push back
on this, I would love to hear strategies and language that worked.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Chris R. Feldman, PhD<br>
Associate Professor of Biology,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Associate Director of Museum of Natural History,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">University of Nevada, Reno<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1664 N. Virginia St. (MS 0314)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Reno, Nevada 89557<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">phone: <a href="tel:(775)%20784-4053" target="_blank">775-784-4053</a><br>
FAX: <a href="tel:(775)%20784-1302" target="_blank">775-784-1302</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">E-mail: <a href="mailto:ophis@unr.edu">
ophis@unr.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="http://www.feldmanlab.weebly.com/">www.feldmanlab.weebly.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="http://www.naturalhistory.unr.edu/" target="_blank">www.naturalhistory.unr.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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