<div dir="ltr"><div>Thank you for the additional clarification of the situation and for additional information, Nate and Doug. On the subject of type specimens, it seems that some taxonomists still designate lectotypes as a routine practice when it doesn't seem warranted (all syntypes unquestionably the same taxon). Having multiple name-bearing types can be useful, especially if in several collections, to reduce catastrophic losses of name-bearing types.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 12:00 PM Douglas Yanega <<a href="mailto:dyanega@gmail.com">dyanega@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 8/3/23 8:45 AM, Dirk Neumann wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks for this valuable update,
Doug!</div>
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<div>Quick question: if the holotype can
be identified from the figure and if the designation of this
specimens as "the holotype" is unambiguous from the figure
legend, wouldn't it be straight forward if a first reviser (i.e.
Nate) would confirm that the depicted holotype as been moved to
lot OSUM 4567 and is been treated as holotype, and the paratype
specimen previously stored in OSUM 4567 as been assigned to a
new lot, <span style="font-family:UICTFontTextStyleEmphasizedItalicBody;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">
OSUM 8910</span> ?</div>
<p>Stability of the Code and scientific names is as important as a
clear reference and assignation of the holotype. This can be
part of a type catalogue or just a brief note specifically to
this species/ that case what problems have been observed and how
they have been treated.</p>
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<p>Very briefly: my understanding is that the figured specimen
cannot be unambiguously recognized. In essence, the holotype is
lost. The name is still available, even so.<br>
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<p>If questions arose about the <b>validity</b> of the taxon (i.e.,
whether it was a synonym of another species), then - and pretty
much ONLY then - a neotype would be required. There are a very
large number of taxa that presently do not have holotypes, for
various reasons, and the Code only allows neotypes to be
designated when absolutely necessary (see Article 75.2).</p>
<p>Peace,<br>
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