<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Tiffany,<div>We have triple-stacked cabinets on compactor carriages at the UMMP, and I was very concerned about capacity during design, so there were several conversations with engineers. As an example of the weights involved, one of our carriages holds about 37,000 lbs of cabinets and drawers (empty). The paleobotany fossils in those drawers bring the total weight of the carriage up to about 67,000 lbs (based on some random drawer weighing), and the stated capacity of this carriage is 104,000. My understanding is that our carriages were modified from a standard design to handle the higher loads of triple-stacked paleo collections.</div><div><br></div><div>We have manual cranks, and these heavier carriages do take a bit of effort, but I would not say it is too difficult. We only move one carriage at a time.</div><div><br></div><div>-Adam<br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 2:55 PM Rob Robins <<a href="mailto:rhrobins@flmnh.ufl.edu">rhrobins@flmnh.ufl.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg8939523181264018539">
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<p class="MsoNormal">All,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I responded directly to Tiffany on this topic, but seeing the more recent messages, I’m concluding that an estimate of the weight of the UF Fish Collection objects on our new compactor systems, made fairly exacting because of the system
we’ve adopted, might be of interest to the larger community. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<u>Refining what I sent to Tiffany as concerns our “gallon jar sector” of the collection</u>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bay 4, carriage 3_4 has a total of 2,173 gallon jars scanned to it (1081 on the “3” side and 1092 on the “4” side).
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<p class="MsoNormal">Taken at an estimated average of 9lbs a jar (fluid + specimen(s):<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2,173 jars x 9 lbs = 19,557 lbs. ~ 10 tons.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It moves just fine. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Later in the move we will add approximately 123 two, three, and five gallon glass “buckets” of specimens to this carriage.
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<p class="MsoNormal">123 jars x ~30lbs = 3,690 lbs<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For a grand total of ~ 23,247 lbs. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>11.6 tons on one compactor carriage.<u></u><u></u></u></b></p>
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There will be close to 4 carriages filled with gallon jars when the move is complete.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Later in the life of the collection, as needed, small jars can be added in some of the space left at the front of each shelf. More weight. But not much more.
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<p class="MsoNormal">We move the carriages one at a time.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rob<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For a graphical representation of the scanned gallon jar lots in question, from Specify, see:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Robert H. Robins<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The UF Fish Collection is moving:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Search the Collection:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Search samples suitable for dna analysis:<u></u><u></u></p>
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On Behalf Of </b>Cundiff, Jessica D.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 15, 2023 2:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrain, Tiffany S <<a href="mailto:tiffany-adrain@uiowa.edu" target="_blank">tiffany-adrain@uiowa.edu</a>>; <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Compactor/mobile storage systems for paleo collections<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Tiffany,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">At the MCZ all of the invert paleo collection is in compactors. Heaviest material we have are the fossil corals. Those are in 4 foot Delta cabinets with doors and double stacked. I don’t recall the weight we estimated per cabinet or the
weight limit they gave us per compactor section, but we did not exceed the weight the compactor can handle. We have a lot of heavy corals in a fairly long compactor sections and have no issues moving as long as we move one section at a time. We have also had
a few issues with water leaks that caused the rails to rust, but they still move easily.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lazo-Wasem, Eric<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 15, 2023 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Adrain, Tiffany S <<a href="mailto:tiffany-adrain@uiowa.edu" target="_blank">tiffany-adrain@uiowa.edu</a>>;
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Tiffany,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Although not fossils, our coral range is filled with a lot of dense, heavy species such as Diploria, although I don’t have tech specs for how much I am actually moving. Additionally, to get more packed into the dry specimen storage room,
we placed 5 foot cabinets of 4 footers, so that adds extra weight compared to more standard configurations of 4 over 4. However, in some areas with lighter material I can move a few ranges at once, but the corals, not really possible to do it. BTW – our
cabinets all have doors, so it is quite a bit of steel weight even before we packed in the specimens.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Despite a tightly closed environment, we recently dealt with flooding as the roof of an infill building was being married to my building. The rails rusted but this has not impacted function. With use the rails clean up and given my focus
on fluid collections (where I am constantly accessing different tier ranges) the dry collection can sit for weeks unmoved – never has this been an issue.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Eric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrain, Tiffany S<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 15, 2023 12:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">If you manage a paleontology collection in compactor (aka mobile) storage, I'd be grateful from some insight into the ease at which carriages full of fossils can be moved. I am planning new storage
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Do you have any difficulty in moving the heaviest carriages along the rails in your collection? If so, what would be the maximum weight/volume per rail you'd recommend.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Have you had any problems maintaining the carriage rails in a variable relative humidity environment (any problem with rusting or seizing up), especially when the carriages are not moved very often? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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